Friday, December 12, 2014

Pope says Salvationists and Catholics meet at peripheries of society



Pope Francis greets the Salvation Army leader General André Cox - OSS_ROM

(Vatican Radio) In a first private audience in the Vatican with a Salvation Army general on Friday, Pope Francis said theological differences do not impede the witness of a shared love of God and neighbour. He also spoke of his first encounter, as a 4-year old, with Salvation Army officers which, he said, stirred in him a sense of ecumenical outreach beyond the teachings of the Catholic Church in that era.  Philippa Hitchen reports…

Greeting warmly a delegation led by General André Cox, the Pope said Catholics and Salvationists, together with other Christians, recognise that those in need have a special place in God’s heart – so much so, that the Lord himself became poor for our sake. As a result, the Pope said, Catholics and Salvationists often meet at the same peripheries of society.

I pray, he concluded, that all of Christ’s disciples can contribute with the same conviction and dynamism that the Salvation Army demonstrates in its devoted and highly appreciated service. Founded by former Methodist minister William Booth in 1865 as the East London Christian Mission, the Salvation Army today numbers one and a half million members in 126 countries worldwide.

Just after the papal audience, I talked to General André Cox to find out more about the meeting and about the message of closer cooperation he was bringing here to the 
Vatican….
The Salvation Army leader told me he had asked for an audience because in recent years there have been “some pretty intensive and helpful and useful discussions” between Catholics and Salvationists, culminating in the publication of a book on the joint discussions. These talks, he said, have revealed “so many points of faith that connect us together, but also our passion and commitment for social justice and work among the poor.”

The audience, he continued, was an opportunity to present the book to the Pope and to express thanks and prayer support for him “since many of the things he’s been expressing really resonate with the heart of Salvationists around the world.” Given the growing mutual understanding and respect, General Cox said he told the Pope his organisation was seeking “practical ways to support each other and also align our message as we speak to the world on these issues.”

Describing Pope Francis as “a peoples’ person”, the Salvation Army leader said the pontiff spoke off-the-cuff to describe his memory of walking, as a four-year old, with his grandmother in Argentina and seeing two Salvation Army ladies in their distinctive hats and uniforms. Despite the prevailing Catholic view that Protestants “were destined to Hell”, Bergoglio’s grandmother told him they were “Protestants, but good people”, awakening in the young boy an opening to ecumenical encounter.

General Cox also looked ahead to next July when the Salvation Army will be celebrating the 150th anniversary of its foundation, gathering with representatives from across the globe at the O2 arena in London, just a couple of miles away from where the East London Christian Mission was first founded.
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Please find below the official text of Pope Francis' greeting to the Salvation Army delegation:
Dear Friends,

I extend a warm welcome to you, the leadership of The Salvation Army, well-known to me for its evangelizing and charitable mission. Your visit is the happy outcome of more frequent and fruitful contacts in recent years between The Salvation Army and the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, including a series of theological conversations aimed at fostering a better understanding of one another, mutual respect and regular collaboration. I earnestly hope that Catholics and Salvationists will continue to offer a common witness to Christ and to the Gospel in a world so much in need of experiencing God’s boundless mercy.

Catholics and Salvationists, together with other Christians, recognize that those in need have a special place in God’s heart, so much so that the Lord Jesus Christ himself became poor for our sake (cf. 2 Cor 8:9). As a result, Catholics and Salvationists often meet in the same peripheries of society. It is my hope that our shared faith in Jesus Christ the Saviour, the one mediator between God and man (cf. 1 Tim 2:5), will become evermore the firm foundation of friendship and cooperation between us.

“The Church which ‘goes forth’ is a community of missionary disciples who take the first step, who are involved and supportive, who bear fruit and rejoice. An evangelizing community knows that the Lord has taken the initiative; he has loved us first (cf. 1 Jn 4:19), and therefore we can move forward, boldly take the initiative, go out to others, seek those who have fallen away, stand at the crossroads, and welcome the outcast. Such a community has an endless desire to show mercy, the fruit of its own experience of the power of the Father’s infinite mercy” (Apostolic Exhortation Evangelii Gaudium, 24).

I pray that in today’s world all of Christ’s disciples will make their contribution with the same conviction and dynamism that The Salvation Army demonstrates in its devoted and highly appreciated service. The differences between Catholics and Salvationists regarding theological and ecclesiological questions need not impede the witness of our shared love of God and love of neighbour, a love which is capable of inspiring a concerted commitment to restoring the dignity of those who live on the margins of society.

Dear friends, I pray to God for the work of The Salvation Army. May many people in difficulty continue to rely on your efforts, which enable Christ’s light to shine in the darkest recesses of their lives. May you and your fellow Salvationists be filled with the Holy Spirit’s gifts of wisdom, understanding, fortitude and peace, and so witness to the Lord’s Kingdom in our suffering world. And I ask that you also pray for me. Thank you.


8 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://youtu.be/9T0N1rtvxEc

FORMER SALVATION ARMY OFFICERS FELLOWSHIP said...

If you love Pope Francis you'll love Jesus even more-

California bumper sticker

Anonymous said...

If this occurred 30 years ago hundreds of thousands of Salvationists would have balked and thousands would have walked. Has the Catholic church become more accepting or the Army more mature?

Former USA East

Anonymous said...

To Former USA East - I fear you are correct. The fact is that very few Salvationists know about or are concerned about the detail of our doctrinal differences with the Roman Catholic faith. There are fundamental questions about this move of the General to embrace the head of the RC church. I wonder how many other salvationists feel the same way? As I see it, the Salvation Army is an evangelical Protestant denomination whose message is based on the Bible. We have basic differences with the Roman Catholic church - its belief in Transubstantiation, the veneration of Mary and the church's belief about her perpetual virginity, its position on the ordination of women, the celebration of the sacraments (they have 7 of them), and its belief in purgatory, to name but a few.
These are major and significant differences, and I for one wouldn't practice any of them. But how many salvationists, with their watered-down knowledge of the Scriptures, would even think of these topics or realise how much they differ from our own practices, and from God's Word, and why would you regard the Army as being more mature from this meeting initiated by Andre Cox? Surely prostituting one's beliefs for the sake of 'unity' is not maturity, but is taking things too far? One thing is for sure, closer ties between the two denominations would never result in acceptance of TSA's many little quirks that keep most of the soldiery going. If there IS going to be a closeness developing between TSA and the RC church, it would result in the complete annihilation of the Salvation Army as we know it. Imho General Cox should be expending his energy in building up the core Christian values of his own organisation, ensuring the membership come back to gospel basics, not seeking further dilution of these values by integrating with spiritual polar opposites. Has the general lost the plot?

Anonymous said...

I've just watched the you tube link @ post 1 - it's revealing in that it describes Rick Warren's sycophantic capitulation to Rome. It shows how Roman Catholicism compromises the gospel of Jesus Christ that we stand for. His acceptance of the pope being called 'holy father' and 'the vicar of Christ on earth' is wholly unbiblical. These are titles of deity, and acknowledging them is a sell out of our heritage. We believe in our Father God, and there being only one mediator between us and God, and that man is Christ Jesus. RC priests, in their ordination, take on the priestly authority of Christ. This is not what we believe.
We should be very careful when faced with such issues, and should seek the right answers through prayer and discernment only. Rick Warren said that people will listen to what you say when they like what they see. But millions of Christians throughout the world are being persecuted today for living the full Christian life as laid out in the Scriptures, because others do NOT like what they see in them.
Along which path is Andre Cox leading this once-great Salvation Army, raised up by God according to the holy Scriptures? I wonder.

Anonymous said...

1. LUV the bumper sticker!

2. Former USA East: You're absolutely correct. It's called maturity----and on both sides of the fence too. When I was a kid (as Pope Francis alluded to) all of my Catholic relatives, friends and acquaintances thought we Protestants were going to Hell just as much as we Protestants thought they were all unsaved and going to Hell too! Thanks largely to better education levels among the public as a whole, some excellent theologians in both camps who've engaged themselves in equally excellent biblical exegesis and the moving of the "Holy Spirit" fewer and fewer people on either side have such a myopic view of God's working in the world, as was so prevalent just two generations ago.

ANON Crapehanger# 1: When it comes to TSA, I for one (and I'm far from the only one) know all about our doctrinal differences, so don't go around self-righteously assuming that you're one of the only ones left. Striving to treat people who disagree with you with a modicum of respect and as fellow human beings, in a more peaceful world is not exactly "prostituting one's beliefs and convictions." I'm afraid your fundamentalist mindset is much more dangerous than anything that can come out of a group of fellow Xians who believe in the perpetual virginity of Mary.

ANON Crapehanger # 2. (whom I sort of suspect is actually still Crapehanger # 1. Same old, same old. I'm not sure what country you're spewing forth from, but I suspect that if you were around in 1960 America, you probably would've voted against Kennedy, not so much due to political differences but because you'd have been afraid that if he got in the Pope would take over the U.S. Put a sock in it and grow up already.

God Bless The General and the Pope! Long live TSA--and it will--because it's a God thing.

Daryl Lach
USA Central

P.S. "You Must Go Home By the Way of the Cross, To Stand With Jesus In the Morning!"

Anonymous said...

To Daryl Lach: with reference to your directive to 'Put a sock in it and grow up already'. Is that bumper sticker a mature comment? Is your comment of 'grow up' a mature one? I think not - please take your own advice. I note you did not address any of the differences between the two denominations. The mature action would be to debate the actual issue, not accuse people of crapehanging just because they hold a different viewpoint to you. And there is no denigration of any individuals within the text @ 4 above. Please do not read into comments what just isn't there. With respect, of course.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, the Salvation Army has more in common with the Catholic church then mentioned in any above comments.
Lets not forget about the many victims of sexual abuse by both the Catholic church and the Salvation Army Church.
Maybe between the two of them they can develop a form of accountability and legal reporting that will provide justice for the victims.