Every time I look at the news, the LGBT
community is up in arms or trying to make front page news about something. Gay
activism makes me tired, I don’t want to hear about it anymore. Fifteen
years ago, I would have helped, I would have made the posters, I would have
written my MP. But now, they’ve won their acceptance. Same sex
marriage is legal, companies cannot discriminate against homosexuals, so I ask,
what more do they want? Not everyone is going to be accepted for
everything all the time. Being a vocal conservative woman, I get that.
I believe in freedom of speech, freedom of
expression and equality but there is a limit. I am not for shoving
ideologies down the throats of those who don’t agree with me. Make your
point, make yourself heard, fight for the same rights as everyone else and
accept the win gracefully. Don’t demand respect, don’t demand tolerance
for your chosen lifestyle, not everyone is going to agree with it. Let me
be clear, I have no issue with sane, rational, gay people who don't feel their
sexuality is the focus of their identity. I do have a problem with people
who throw their homosexuality in my face and expect me to respect them because
of it.
There appears to be a group of people out there
trying to change the definition of “normal.” It seems though when one
does not live an alternative lifestyle (anything LGBT) that person is
immediately wrong. If we dare speak against alternative lifestyles, we’re
homophobic or transphobic. I find this to be a ludicrous concept. I
like this word “debate.” It’s a good word. I also enjoy other words
and phrases, like “personal opinion” but we’re not allowed to have those
anymore unless they follow the party line. I’m finding my personal
opinions don’t follow party line. At times I’m not sure where the party
line is.
Most examples of this Liberal psychosis right
now seems to be in the Toronto District School Board. Not only do they
call themselves a gay straight alliance, they promote gender bending to
elementary school children, as well as homosexual and polygamist lifestyles. What
happened to public schools teaching things like reading, math, and science? Family
values and morality, as far as I can remember, wasn’t in the curriculum. So
many argue religion doesn’t belong in public schools, so why do LGBT
initiatives or alternative family lifestyles? If one can argue for, one
should be allowed to argue against but that simply isn’t the case.
There are also people that promote the idea of
raising children as “gender neutral” stating gender is a stereotype. Gender
is not a complex or stereotype, it is physiological. Women and men are
built differently. We do different things, like, for example, women can
get pregnant, men can’t. Men who “identify as female” should try PMS once
or twice. They would never “identify as female” ever again!
The Ontario anti-bullying law is a confusing one
to me. It says anti-bullying but somehow it’s become another win for the
LGBT community. All schools, public, Catholic, whatever, must permit gay
straight alliance clubs. How did an anti-bullying law turn into a
political forum for homosexual lifestyles for teens? Apparently when this
law was created, they missed the part that said sexuality was low on the list
of why kids get bullied. Kids get bullied because of their looks, their weight,
their grades. So, since looks are the top of the bullying list, why aren't
uniforms mandatory in all schools? Then they need to create a fitness regimen
so everyone weighs relatively the same, and so forth. Gay straight
alliance clubs should be very far down on the list for methods to prevent
bullying.
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13 comments:
You're speaking for a great many people across many borders!
Quickly losing interest. They are ostracising themselves and embarrassing their straight supporters.
Active SA London
I'm so glad you posted this - you are so right. I've read all these articles, and have been shocked by what comes across as a 'we're all in this together' club. Like you, I am sick and tired of this subject being in my face every day. I've been surprised by the people who are willing to accept the LGBT angle that as long as they are in a faithful relationship it's OK.
I'm fed up of LGBT fans deriding the beliefs of people like me who can't share their views. They ask for respect for their own lifestyle, but have no tolerance for others'. They say they feel like second-class Christians who are not accepted in their church, but in so saying, they are denigrating the sincerely-held views of heterosexual people who, as a result of their own inner convictions, are unsympathetic to the LGBT cause.
They are liberal thinkers who have turned the interpretation of Scripture to suit their own opinions. I cannot accept that God condones the LGBT lifestyle - same-sex relationships are not advocated at all in the Bible.
Iva Lou Samples says she has gay friends who have heterosexual children – children born through artificial insemination or through surrogacy. Is this what God wants for his children? Couples incapable of reproducing without the involvement of a third party - outside of the 'marriage' union? Kids who are the biological offspring of one of the couple, but not of the other? How can rational Christians accept this?
Despite my comments, I am not a homophobe. Yes, I do find it all distasteful, but I would not lift a finger against anyone, whatever their gender bias, and I have hate for no-one. Like most people these days, there are LGBT people within my circle - unavoidable, really, given its high media profile. But my chief gripe is that LGBTs define themselves by their sexuality - it appears to be the uppermost priority in their lives, and the one thing they are most vocal about. Why do they have to 'come out'? Why do they think this is important to the world? It's this which I find unacceptable -spare us from it all the time, please. Less is often more.
The point is that equality has not been won. There is still a great amount of discrimination. We are still fighting for basic acceptance and equality. People are still legally fired and denied all kinds of jobs all around the world - including in Canada and Australia and the US - for no other reason than they are gay. Gay couples still in most places can't adopt children.
And sexuality is actually very high on the list of why people are bullied, and kicked out of home etc etc etc.
The fight will stop when the LGBT community have attained the same rights as the straight community. If you believe that they already have won the battle, then you are extremely naive, and completely unaware of the discrimination that is faced on a daily basis by the LGBT community.
Yours in Christ,
Graeme Randall
Former Australian East in London.
Impasse.
Hey FSAOF- Why not ask, "I'm so glad you posted this" to write a article? If she's a Salvo her views are truly relevant and your is the vehicle for her to share what so many of us feel.
Nyack NY
Although I am not an Officer, albeit a non-Officer former, I have found many of the discussions on this site quite fascinating and, sometimes, thought provoking. But this constant concentration on LGBT is overwhelming the site and it has become rather tiresome.
Perhaps you might give it a rest for a while?
My view on this is that if you're tired of oppressed minorities overly compensating for gains they make towards equality, maybe don't oppress them in the first place.
Graeme Randall wrote 'There is still a great amount of discrimination'.
Really? What does he expect? While he says many things in defence of LGBTs and their 'feelings', why, as a seemingly highly intelligent person, can he not accept that some heterosexuals feel the same way in reverse? He writes that homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice - neither is heterosexuality.
Also, I'm not sure how equality has not been won.
He says people are being fired etc and discriminated against all around the world. I find that hard to swallow, considering that the law is now set to defend LGBTs against all-comers - and does. Recent court cases which have found in favour of LGBTs have proved this - against genuine people who have only been defending their own lifestyle, and have lost out big-time as a result. I cannot respect anyone who inflicts such hardship on inoffensive people who want to live their lives according to their own moral code. I'm afraid that the longer this series goes on, the more my hackles are rising, and my attitude, regretfully, is hardening.
To Nyack NY - thanks for the suggestion to write an article - I am the poster to whom you refer above. I won't be writing any articles on this subject - have you seen the responses by the LGBT supporters to articles which are against their cause? They all come out in droves when this subject is raised. If you look at the Iva Lou Samples article - 25 response - all in favour and touchy-feely supportive. Not one 'anti' comment. And if you look at all the other articles, I'm sure you'll find a trend where 'anti' comments are diminishing because of the constant barrage of rhetoric coming out of the LGBT camp (no pun intended, lest anyone should think me discriminatory. Yes, it is getting that trivial). I fell passionately about this subject, but my views are no longer in vogue, and I, and, I suspect, others like me, are refraining from contributing, because there seems no point.
I’ve been following your discussion. I am sick of hearing it too. In addition to the posts here, here are just a few things that have come across my desk in just the last week:
Conservative pundit Glenn Beck never misses a chance to bring up the subject for maximum controversy: http://www.bilerico.com/2014/01/beck_if_you_hate_gays_you_cant_be_a_fan_of_mine.php
A Michigan Pastor wants to herd all the Indians into Detroit, build a big fence and throw in some corn: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/21/michigan-gop-official-herd-all-the-indians-to-detroit-build-a-fence-and-throw-in-corn/
Another Pastor wants to herd all the gays into a big electrified fence pens and wait for them to die: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/22/nation/la-na-nn-pastor-wants-to-put-gays-lesbians-behind-electrified-fence-20120522
This Pastor says Obama is desensitizing people with his support of gays and healthcare to make it easier for the anti-christ to take over: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/21/pastor-tells-fox-news-obamas-getting-us-ready-to-embrace-the-anti-christ/
A Nigerian Catholic Priest praises the new law to put LGBT people and their supporters in prison: http://www.bilerico.com/2014/01/nigerian_catholic_cardinal_praises_anti-lgbt_law.php
Thousands of Nigerians want to stone to death rounded up gay men and sympathizers: http://www.bilerico.com/2014/01/thousands_of_nigerians_demand_stoning_of_gay_men.php
Another Nigerian Catholic Priest praises the new law to put LGBT people and their supporters in prison: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/24/nigeria-gay-cat-_n_4661477.html
Religious leaders praise Nigerian anti-gay law because it is God’s will: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/01/religious-leaders-praise-nigerias-new-anti-gay-law-claim-its-gods-will/
Oklahoma legislator Sally Kern is infamous for her anti-gay statements, including saying that lgbts are more dangerous than terrorist claiming that they are destroying the nation, and recently saying that homosexuality is a "civil wrong." The Bible says it. I believe it. That settles it”. http://holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspot.com/2014/01/anti-gay-legislator-sally-kerns.html#.UucIwywo5LM
John Stewart skewered Russia’s homophobia : http://www.bilerico.com/2014/01/jon_stewart_skewers_the_sochi_homophobic_olympics.php
Fundamentalist Pastor Scott Lively charged with crimes against humanity for his promotion of “kill the gays” legislation: http://thegaychristian.com/scott-lively-crimes-against-humanity/ Scott lively charged
Catholic church documents reveal decades of hidden sexual abuse: http://madmikesamerica.com/2014/01/church-documents-reveal-decades-of-hidden-sexual-abuse/
Republican candidate claims that autism and dementia are God’s punishment for LGBT rights: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/22/chicago-gop-hopeful-autism-and-dementia-are-gods-punishments-for-lgbt-rights/
Right wing televangelist tells caller to his prayer show to commit suicide: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/televangelist-tells-viewer-commit-suicide
The 5 faces of homophobia: 5 American fundamentalists who worked to enact Russia’s anti-gay laws; http://equalitymatters.org/blog/201401220002
A new Pastor fires the long time choir director because he doesn’t like gays (and his congregation walks out): http://act.faithfulamerica.org/go/126?t=1&akid=220.159993.3HfVfF petition gay choir director
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Part 2
Ignoring the separation of Church and State, Utah Attorney General cites theology as the basis of legal action against same sex marriage: https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/onward-christian-solider-utah-attorney-cites-theology-as-motivation-to
Joshua Black, a candidate for state representative in Florida is invoking the words of Jesus to argue that President Obama should be hanged for treason. He opinion that "it's time to arrest and hang him high," then went on to state: "This would be exactly what the President has done to others, and, as Jesus said, 'the measure ye mete, it shall be meted to you again.'"
What if this were your son? Gay Ohio student murdered: http://www.back2stonewall.com/2014/01/gay-ohio-college-student-murdered-horrific-online-hook-up-meet.html
Illinois Republican says God makes tornados to punish people for supporting gays: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/23/1271963/-Illinois-Republican-says-God-makes-tornadoes-to-punish-gay-people?detail=email
Talk about religious persecution! Indiana makes it a crime for preachers to “solemnize” a gay marriage, regardless of what that church’s theology is: http://americablog.com/2013/07/indiana-makes-crime-preacher-conduct-gay-marriage.html
This article questions the motives of some preachers: http://madmikesamerica.com/2014/01/a-preachers-focus-power-adulation-and-cash/
A politician in Great Britain has blamed the recent floods on marriage equality: http://www.queerty.com/uk-politician-says-marriage-equality-caused-the-countrys-floods-proving-wing-nuts-are-everywhere-20140121/
In satirical response, married gays plan to tour drought ravaged areas to bring rain: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/married-gays-to-tour-drought-hit-countries-2014012082721
(There are lots more examples of blaming “the gays” for weather. Just Google “pastor blames gays for weather”)
An Oklahoma legislator is proposing to end all state involvement in marriage rather than recognize “the gays”: http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/oklahoma-state-representative-files-bill-aimed-at-curbing-divorce-rate/article_91b21d00-876e-11e3-8fef-001a4bcf6878.html I don’t expect that will go over well with the married folks.
And in response to a well published stunt by a Utah legislator to fast in protest marriage equality, this gay father invites him to come break bread with him and his family: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/01/a-gay-dad-sounds-off-on-the-utah-fasting-guys-latest-childish-rant/
And then of course there was all the usual anti-gay drivel from the American Family Association, Pacific Justice Institute, Focus on Family, National Organization for Marriage and the other nationally recognized hate groups, and their lesser known affiliates, all spewing their own biblical interpretations to support their hate. How many of their emails did you get?
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Part 3
So why do I bring this up? I bring them because none of these “news” or “Action Alert” items were precipitated by “the gays”. You occasionally hear of demand for equal rights, but more often when you hear from “the gays” it is in protest of these kinds of attacks, these actions to deny basic human and civil rights. It is not “us” that is keeping this in the public view, “we” don’t make these ridiculous claims, bigoted statements, heretical proclamations, hate based allegations. It is “your” people who keep you stirred up.
We just want to be left alone to live our lives.
Please show me one incident where “the gays” have ever acted to deny you life, liberty or pursuit of happiness. We don’t care about your marriage, your family, your “lifestyle” your religion or anything else about you. That is not our concern.
Why are you concerned about ours?
We are concerned for our lives. Nothing more. The health, safety and well being of our selves and our families is our concern. How is that a threat to you?
As a community of Christ, please tell me why it is more important for you to control where I pee, than to protest the above heresies and atrocities being propagated in the name of God? Why do you protest my community, but not police your own?
Oh, and here’s one more. Since transgender users of toilets was brought up, here’s an editorial in support of “Chrissy's Law”, a proposed law to recognize the rights of transgender men and women in Maryland. In 2010 transgender woman Chrissy Polis was beaten to convulsions by 2 women who objected to her use of the restroom at a McDonalds in Baltimore. : http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/bs-ed-transgender-20140120,0,5631562.story
I’ll write more on transgender issues another time.
'I’ll write more on transgender issues another time.'
Please don't - we're already on overload here.
To the person who wrote, 'Perhaps you might give it a rest for a while?' - I say 'AMEN' to that. There ARE other important topics - many of them.
And to the person who wrote 'if you're tired of oppressed minorities overly compensating for gains they make towards equality, maybe don't oppress them in the first place.' - I have never oppressed anyone in my life. That doesn't give anyone the right to try to control my thinking, my convictions or my actions.
This protracted, extremely biased, series is far too long, too much skewed in favour of LGBT, VERY unsympathetic to those of us who believe in a spiritually guided opposition to the LGBT lifestyle, and quite as disrespectful in its aggressive attempt to have everyone singing from the same LGBT hymn sheet. It's never going to happen.
Having said that, I am just as disgusted with the sentiments in the websites quoted in the (very long) 3-part posting above. I would venture to say they do not reflect the thinking of many traditionalists. Judgement should be left to God - for everyone.
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