Phillippians 2: 3
Do nothing out of selfishness or out of vainglory; rather, humbly regard others as more important than yourselves, each looking out not for his own interests, but [also] everyone for those of others. Have among yourselves the same attitude that is also yours in Christ Jesus...
John H.W. Stott said when speaking on the importance of others; “…at every stage of our Christian development, and in every sphere of our Christian discipleship, pride is our greatest enemy and humility our greatest friend.”
On our 2nd meeting some three years later and on the other side of the Atlantic, he greeted me by name. Admittedly my SA uniform and our few letter exchanges no doubt quickened his memory, but I recall that on both occasions he gave me his full and rapt attention. He knew me! Who was I to deserve such focused consideration?
We’ve all been there haven’t we; a crowded conference
or seminar where when speaking to someone their furtive glances bounce past us
as though we’re a mere obstruction as they seek whom there might be just beyond
us in the room that’s more important, more influential, more attractive… But
not John Stott. With a large number huddled within just a few feet waiting to
catch his attention John Stott’s attitude was by my account a man who humbled
himself, seeing me as better, worthy.
In this series we’ve met Captain Paul Thistle, a world-renowned surgeon who’d be welcomed and comfortable in most any operating theatre. Yet, he elects to humble himself, having Christ’s mind, and taking on the role of the servant. It is difficult to underestimate the impact he has had on the communities and the impoverished Chiweshe district where he lives and serves.
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C.S. Lewis helpfully said, “Humility is not thinking less of yourself but thinking of yourself less.” Humility is not thinking that others are more intelligent, more deserving or simply better at living life than you. They may be. But Paul Thistle’s humility is one that considers other people’s interests before his own.
“Humility is not thinking less of yourself but thinking of yourself less.” - Dr. Paul Thistle, left family, friends, a surgeon's high-income salary and comfort behind, and thought nothing of lowering himself year after year after year….
“Humility is not thinking less of yourself but thinking of yourself less.” - Dr. Paul Thistle, left family, friends, a surgeon's high-income salary and comfort behind, and thought nothing of lowering himself year after year after year….
Howard Hospital meets not only the medical needs
of the community but is a
haven of ‘hope and comfort’. As Dr. Thistle says,
"cure sometimes, care always' (rapa dzimwenguva gara) seeing others as more worthy, and
doing so ministering in Shona, his adopted native language.
“He doth much who loveth much; he doth much who doth well; and he doth much and well who constantly prefereth the good of the community to the gratification of his own will." [Thomas A Kempis, 1380--1477]
Dr. Paul sees the hundreds of thousands suffering native African Zimbabwean as worthy, better and more important than himself; his fellow villagers in need of healing and Christ's message of hope. A servant indeed! God bless Dr. Thistle and his servant ministry.
Dr. Sven Ljungholm
Liverpool
“He doth much who loveth much; he doth much who doth well; and he doth much and well who constantly prefereth the good of the community to the gratification of his own will." [Thomas A Kempis, 1380--1477]
Dr. Paul sees the hundreds of thousands suffering native African Zimbabwean as worthy, better and more important than himself; his fellow villagers in need of healing and Christ's message of hope. A servant indeed! God bless Dr. Thistle and his servant ministry.
Dr. Sven Ljungholm
Liverpool
29 comments:
A Special Treasure. Pray he and Pedrinah,James and Alexander keep safe and well.
Thank you Sven for the expose' but also for turning the focus back on the person at the center of the tragedy.
In my surfing the net trying to find some personal profiles for our HC senior leaders ( none on the Army website, only photos) I came across this article written by Doug MacLellan, which I found rather poignant.
http://dougmaclellan.tumblr.com/
Excerpts:
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….. conflicting reports of the current Howard situation: visitors claim patient visits remain low as does the pharmacy inventory; Salvation Army published a news release stating a new replacement Administrator is arriving soon and that the situation is improving.
Maybe I am hopeful something good will come of Former Salvation Army Officers Fellowship blog initiative. ……
I spent the weekend with Paul Thistle …... Time is healing the wounds … There seemed to be a theme this weekend: moving on.
Paul will move on….
Last week a blog …. by former officers of the Salvation Army seemed to get Paul back into a nostagia about the Howard. Maybe he could return. There are new people in high positions at the Salvation Army. His heart is clearly with the people of Chiweshe. But maybe that chapter is closed forever, that it is time to move on….I am leaning towards stopping the essay....
Brian Nichols (artist) visits the Howard Hospital, Zimbabwe, regularly or at least he did until the Salvation Army ‘Thistle Dismissal’….. Brian worked with traumatized or dying patients. He rubbed oils on their burns or got them to draw. But he was so upset by Thistle’s departure that there is doubt that he will ever visit again. Brian made a significant positive difference in the lives of the people he met at Howard. Now that is gone. The losses the Salvation Army created when they terminated Paul Thistle are greater than the organization must have ever thought. It is a shame……
Howard Hospital.
Hour and a half from Harare, capital of Zimbabwe. Rural.
Catchment radius of 50 miles contains about 300,000 souls.
Traditional Community lands.
Mostly poor, mostly subsistence farmers and their families.
Poor farming land.
No surgeon.
Down one doctor.
Down a midwife.
Nurses on work to rule.
Patient numbers down from 400 to 600 daily to around 200 or so.
144 beds about 20% full.
Lower patient fees.
No donations from Canada.
Limited cashflow.
New Administrator—third in five months.
First choice for Chief Medical Officer turned job down.
Second choice tied up with immigration issues—may show up in June, 2013.
Police won’t allow locals to use placards for protest. No money for a legal challenge.
Locals have no voice.
No voice, no money, no surgeon.
Those are some of the facts.
Are you moved?
What can you do?
Contact the Salvation Army Territorial or International headquarters. Mention Paul Thistle. Let them explain their side of the story. See if it squares with these facts. Thistle is not going back to the Howard Hospital but the Salvation Army could improve relations with the local community by actually listening to their concerns and taking the necessary actions.
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Also, having read an account of the increasing popularity of Karanda hospital since Dr Thistle arrived, I for one hope that he forgets about returning to HH - when his heart is full with the physical and spiritual concern of is patients, it would appear that Karanda is a place where he would be allowed to continue to fulfil his calling without the internal politics of TSA. Even IF a worthy general is elected who will acknowledge all the sinful actions that have taken place, we are still left with the present structure, and it will take forever to dismantle what has fed and led TSA almost since its inception, and it will only happen if a radical mindset shifts. Officers who have reached the lofty heights of Commissioner rank are inured in the practices and tenets of TSA. I do believe that if there was a glimmer of hope that things would or could change, you would have heard it from one of them, and it would have made Army headlines. I have not read anything yet in Army publications to fill me with hope. But - I keep praying!
But - move on, Dr Thistle. TSA is not worthy of you, more to its shame.
UK
Contrast the above dismal picture of Howard Hospital with this picture of Karanda Hospital where Dr Paul Thistle is now serving:
Karanda Mission Hospital serves as a tool to show the love of Christ in very practical ways. As we meet the often desperate health care needs of people we bring hope into people’s lives and have the opportunity to share with them the hope they can have in Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 2:10 says we have been chosen by God for good works. At Karanda we have a wonderful opportunity to live out this command of Christ. With 10-20 surgeries and 200-300 outpatients daily Karanda has the opportunity to share the love of Christ to over 75,000 individuals annually through the hospital ministry.
The Karanda Hospital Chapel was built to serve as a place of worship for the hospital patients, the staff and the local community. In association with The Evangelical Church of Zimbabwe, Karanda offers multiple opportunities for worship, discipleship and ministry.
Each week daily devotions are held for all the staff and patients.
Weekly bible studies are given to staff members and our nursing students.
The Awana program is very well attended.
Kidz Club is held each week for our AIDS orphans.
In addition there are women’s and men’s meetings and weekly Sunday services. Each weekday our chaplains minister on the wards, offering bedside witnessing and compassionate care and holding ward services.
Several times a year the Evangelical Church and the hospital staff work together to hold evangelistic outreach meetings to our surrounding communities.
What a joy to read! JOY indeed:
JESUS first
OTHERS in between
YOURSELF last
A real contrast with the stark, factual account of HH, which has no spiritual content at all. And a direct, concise description of the life and work of Dr Paul Thistle and his family.
As a Salvationist of many years' standing, this pains me to say - but I do hope that the Thistles shake off their loyalty to TSA and just go with God into this new place where He has now placed them. All things work together for good.... to those who love the Lord, and I'm convinced that with his contacts for fundraising and his loyal followers and supporters that he will help to make Karanda Hospital a shining example of what can be achieved when God is at the centre of the aims and purposes of both organisations and individuals.
UK Soldier
Yes there is a future for the Thistles wherever they go with God. But as Doug McLellan has said, and as one senses when in the presence of Paul and Pedrinah, their hearts ache for the Chiweshe people. It is hard to see what the good is in all of this for the Chiweshe families who have watched loved ones die in sometimes horrible circumstances for want of surgery, while Dr. Thistle was available but prevented by TSA from working.
One story that came out of Zimbabwe in the days not long after the removal of Dr. Thistle - please excuse if it is gross to you - illustrates the anguish of this whole situation. Dr. Thistle had apparently done a colostomy and the patient was to return to have the colostomy removed and the intestines re-connected. But by the time of the second surgery the Army had removed Dr. Thistle from his practice and so the patient's family took the patient somewhere else and a less qualified surgeon did their best no doubt, but it was insufficient. On the way home with their family, the incision broke open, the intestines spilled out, and the patient died on the spot. Imagine the anguish of the family and the incredible anguish of Dr. Thistle as he was forced to helplessly stand by as he watched and heard about this and other medical tragic situations which he could have prevented.
If TSA wanted to move him, why did they not at the very least allow him to continue working until his replacement arrived and was trained and ready to take over? Why did IHQ allow Commissioner Chigariro to force him out in 24 hours?
Such action sanctioned and perpetrated by TSA is very likely criminal. But in what country could they be charged and by whom?
For Dr. Thistle and Pedrinah, his very competent wife, it is easy to see the good in all of this for them looking forward, but where is the good for the Chiweshe families who have lost loved ones over the past year and continue to do so because TSA took away their only Dr. and qualified surgeon? The Karanda hospital is miles away from them, despite this some are trying to trek the distance to get medical help, some are too sick to make the journey.
TSA's story now is that community relations are healing. Well that story is suspect given that the police had to whisk Commissioner Chigariro away from her uncle's funeral because a plot was discovered to kill her. Her uncle was the Chiweshe chief man who was stung to death by a mysterious swarm of bees that appeared at his home. The story is in Zimbabwe's newspapers. Apparently he had not supported the other Chiweshe chief men when they went to the government to appeal for the government to intervene with TSA to change their decision to remove Dr. Thistle. So when the Army says relationships are healing with the community, I think that is very suspect and may take years to overcome.
If TSA leadership does not discuss this debacle and repent of their actions, then their hearts have become hardened beyond belief and their pride has totally taken over.
Today - the Archbishop of Canterbury is embarrassed to learn that his ministers' pension fund may have been unethically invested in the very company he criticised yesterday. So what does he do? Keep silent hoping everyone will soon forget about it? Hide behind a spin doctor's coat? No. I've just watched him personally face the TV cameras and announce an immediate review of church finances. God Bless him. What an example! Would that others, maybe of our closer acquaintanceship might follow it.
I have called on this website for TSA through IHQ and the new General to make a public apology to the community of Chiweshe and to the Thistle's. I have for a year been a voice among many calling for an independent investigation to be done because of reported missing funds and building materials and medical supplies.
None of this has happened, I have been told the item will not be discussed at HC - perhaps there is hope that it will be discussed and dealt with at pre HC meetings - but yes, this is a wonderful example by the Archbishop of Canterbury of how to deal with unethical actions. Pray our leadership takes note and avoids the mistakes of the Vatican by sweeping wrong doing under the rug.
Our prayers for the election of a new nternational leader fall silent in the wake of this tragedy unless TSA turns from its present course. Paul Thistle, God bless you and protect you and honour your ministry. Many have been reading here with deep concern for a brother in Christ and are praying for you and trying to work out what this means for us and for the Army.
I feel increasingly isolated from Salvationism in these days. I find it increasingly difficult to respect any of my leaders. Perhaps it's time to move on.
I feel exactly the same way - isolated. I don't respect any of them, and it's the deafening silence that is the most striking. I am ashamed of the leaders, and I am just waiting to see who is the new general and see what he/she has to say. If there is nothing indicating change or repentance, I think I'll be leaving.
UK
Reading this has sickened me:*******
Excerpts of transcript of Harare press conference by Major Dean Pallant, Under Secretary for Programme Resources and International Health Services Coordinator - 26 October 2012
….We are in the process of the appointment of a new Chief Medical Officer at Howard Hospital. … we have an acting Chief Medical Officer who is a very well qualified Zimbabwean doctor, Dr Aaron Museka. We have full confidence in the two Zimbabwean doctors who are there but we realise they need some support as well. The person we have in mind is very well qualified but I am not in a position to release the name just yet because we are in the process of his registration and visa. But we hope he will be in place very soon.
What were the reasons for Dr Thistle leaving?
Dr Thistle is a Salvation Army officer ….. officers are regularly transferred. It is rare to stay more than five years especially in your first appointment. The Thistles have only known Howard Hospital – they have been there for 17 years so the desire is to broaden their experience. They have done an extraordinary job at an extraordinary time and we wanted to give them the opportunity to develop their skills in other places. It is also an opportunity for Howard Hospital to receive some new leadership and that is the way our appointment systems work – we move people.
….. Could you not stop the transfer?
… the Salvation Army system is to move officers around so it was a normal process. We understand the concern of the community because they do not know what is happening next but we can assure them that The Salvation Army has been in Chiweshe right back to the 1920s. We are there and we will be improving our services at Howard Hospital. So we can give these assurances to the community at Chiweshe.
So you can assure the people of Chiweshe that Howard Hospital will be the same even after Dr Thistle’s departure?
That is our strong desire. There is strong support for Howard Hospital around the world and we will be doing everything we can. In fact the purpose for our visit is to work on the completion of the new Howard Hospital and we are strongly hoping that the new hospital will be finished by the end of 2013.
…. The move of Dr Thistle has been discussed at Salvation Army International Headquarters for more than two years. We are always looking at our personnel – how to develop them, how to give them a wider experience. …. This is an internal Salvation Army matter. We regret all the speculation but the allegations were made and we had to investigate them. There has been this time while we have been doing our investigations but …. there is no indication of political interference; no indication of financial misappropriation.
We also understand there were projects that Dr Thistle was undertaking at Howard – the Tauriro Clinc particularly on HIV/AIDS. Whoever is coming will he take up and continue these projects?
Yes, The Salvation Army is very committed community projects. Our international strategy is for primary health care so the commitment to the Tauriro Clinic and the ARV programme is absolutely there. …. the clinical review showed that we have all the drugs for ARV; that patients can receive those and there will be a continuity of care. We encourage everyone who has been registered with HH for their ARVs to continue to come because it is very important that they maintain their clinical regime.
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If they'd been considering moving the Thistles for 2 years, why on earth wasn't someone trained in plenty of time to take over from him in a smooth transition? It's got to be a big 'exaggeration' of truth. Appalling.
UK
I believe that although the Thistles were at HH for 17 years, only 5 of those were as Salvation Army officers, so their move wasn't vital at that particulare time unless there were other forces at work to oust them, which looks likely. Someone wrote in Salvationist last week that they had been in a corps appointment for 11 years, and I know that officers regularly stay in appointments for 7 years, especially those with children. I don't believe a word of it. I just wonder how they can equate their stance with Christian ethics - I know none of us is perfect, but there are boundaries that we just don't cross. If the political situation was sensitive and there was pressure put on it, TSA should have stood up for the Thistles and exposed the others. Shame on those at IHQ!
If it is time for you to move on, then for your own sake, do so by leaving upright through the front door, on good terms and in good standing and also taking responsibility for your own decision. This would allow you to look people in the eye and keep your options open for the future.
I didn't plan on ever moving on - I regarded TSA as my church for life. But I can see now that TSA is badly tarnished - not only with this issue, but others as well, some of which I can testify to personally. When I read about the Chiweshe people and the effect TSA's decision has had on them, it makes me very, very sad. I can't reconcile TSA's actions with those of the Lord Jesus. would He have left these people effectively without medical treatment? Can't see it myself.
Leaving is never easy though, especially when family worship as well. Would TSA split my family as well because of this? And those of many who think I do? There is nothing good coming out of this at all.
The transcript posted here of Major Dean Pallant speaking says to me he's an outright liar and should be disciplined as such. Reminds one of Anannias and Saphirra.
Shameful and shocking.
All this talk of people leaving, and people saying - yes, go - with your head held high etc. The above comment says it all - Major Dean Pallant could not have spoken the truth in this transcript. If he did, and there was consideration for Paul's replacement taking place for 2 years, when in actual fact they forcibly removed him and there WAS/IS no replacement, and people are suffering and dying as a result, TSA is even more incompetent than I thought. It's also more corrupt than I thought. The writer says 'he's an outright liar and should be disciplined as such'. But that's the point, isn't it? NO-ONE at IHQ is being disciplined or even chastised. And there is NOTHING going on to suggest that TSA is changing its ways. it's like a secret society, an 'old boys' network (just a turn of phrase for the gender politically correct - includes women too!)
So why should us minions jump ship? We've not done anything wrong (apart from the general sins that we commit every day, of course), and we all want to see justice done for the people of Chiweshe, but TSA is just sitting back and doing nothing. It's the people on the top table who should be leaving. Shocking.
Just noticed this from IHQ on the front page of the site:
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'IHQ
I read your blog pages with great interest, which are the most meaningful SA pages on the Internet, with a substance that far outpaces even our own official SA websites. I'm particularly impressed that you are factual and accurate in your observations, especially due your transparency; not opinionated in any particular direction. You gain and win credibility as a result. IHQ
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I liked that whoever wrote this is commending the members for their factual, accurate observations, and also transparency. THAT is what we want from IHQ - transparency and truth - no more platitudes/ false information etc. The soldiery are not fools. I believe this subject has touched too many people in the lower ranks for TSA to be ignored now.
Two years? Try two days!
The Thistles were in Canada on furlough when the then Zim TC told the IS Africa, I want him out. The General, set upon by the two African Commissioners sensed she had no option.
Paul was told on his return to Zim, you've got two days, 48 hours to be on a plane out of the country, here are the one way tickets for your entire family.
No plans for a replacement surgeon, or midwife. No thought given to the effects of yanking the boys out of school mid-term. No time to say a proper farewell.
Does IHQ and THQ Toronto really think we'll buy all that rubbish?
SA soldier UKT
I greatly appreciate the concern for Dr. Thistle and family. Of course there is such an injustice so as to warrant our attention.
What about the hundreds...possibly thousands...of citizens of Zimbabwe who had to go one full year without care from Dr. Thistle's hand? The father who died because of the lack of surgery, his children who starve as a result? What about the mother who loses her life to a trauma and the father gets overwhelmed and abandons the children to the streets?
The Salvation Army leadership will be called to account to God for such disregard, inattention and apathy.
have seen thousands of people exactly as I have described and it is despicable that, at least by appearance, the hands of leadership would simply be tossed in the air with such apparent lack of concern. Turning away as if they don't know about? Yea...God has a thought about that. Better to put a millstone around their necks and be tossed into the ocean.
God, help me to stay invested in fighting against injustice wherever it is found. Help me to move with grace and mercy. Help me to call out the arrogance that leads to destruction so as to be used by You to bring Light and Life.
Former Officer USA West
SA soldier UKT - Are you 100% certain that what you have written in your posting is factual and true?
Amen to that! Since reading these articles about this humanitarian tragedy I have become increasingly despairing of TSA ever being brought to account for the damage that has been done.
Even when the subject has been closed, I wonder how this could all be brought out into the open for everyone to know about it and decided for themselves.
I must admit, there is nothing clear in my mind that this will ever happen.
I take some comfort from the biblical fact that the Lord never sleeps or even slumbers. He is aware of what is going on and will 'make everything beautiful' in its time.
I agree that there is nothing beautiful about this topic, and while nothing is happening, people in Chiweshe are still suffering, still dying for want of adequate medical provision and skilled surgeons - because TSA has messed up big time and doesn't even seem to be wringing its hands in despair and contrition. That's what is so alarming - there doesn't seem to be one iota or shred of care or compassion for these poor people. All the concern is about protecting reputations and defending wrongdoing. I'm not sure if they realise that the rank and file membership of TSA - soldiers, adherents, friends - don't give a fig about reputations - what we care for is what we signed up to do when we walked through the Army doors - to care for the sick, the marginalised, the dying, souls without God - the list is endless.
If the leaders repented of the sin they have in the camp, I believe we could move on in the leadings of the Holy Spirit. This impasse is thwarting the work of the gospel.
I take some comfort from the words of a song by Don Moen:
When you've prayed every prayer that you know how to pray
Just remember the Lord will hear and the answer in on its way
Our God is able
He is mighty
He is faithful
And He never sleeps, He never slumbers
He never tires of hearing our prayers
When we are weak He becomes stronger
So rest in His love and cast all of your cares on Him
Do you feel that the Lord has forgotten our need
Just remember that God is always working in ways you cannot see
Our God is able
He is mighty He is faithful!
And He never sleeps, He never slumbers
He never tires of hearing our prayers
When we are weak He becomes stronger
So rest in His love and cast all of your cares on Him
Pray - that's all we can do.
There are some posters here who feel their trust in the SA system and people eroded to the point of utter disdain and revulsion of the system and especially the people who represent it. Each will have their own reason for doing so.....
Our natural tendency is to trust, because, as infants, we trust our parents. It feels good to really trust as it bring triumph over adversity when defeat seems strangely near ( Herbert Booth SASB 713).
We must trust, it is almost biological. Most of the time, we do trust. Without trust we would not be able to relate or function outside ourselves whilst trusting ourselves also becomes impossible. When we feel that our trust is broken, we feel as though a part of us has died and has been hollowed out.
To not trust is not normal and not to respect people either. Neither need to be earned, it is a given right until proven otherwise. The lack of both is not uncommonly the outcome of bitter or even traumatic culminated life experiences. Secular or religious, faith based makes no difference.
Mistrust or distrust are induced not by our own thoughts but often by sad culminated circumstances of events leading up to it.
The whole HH saga is not an exception not is it a rule and if not approached with an emotionally clear and rational ( balanced) mind it is understandable that emotional and sentimental language could ( and has) manipulate our rationality and independence of thought. Such is the power of communication!
Each of us have the potential to be manipulated and be the manipulator at the same time. To continue to not trust is to reward the people who have wronged us and rendered us distrustful in the first place. Those folks have long moved on and yet they still have a great, malign, influence on our lives. This is the irony of being distrustful of others to the detriment of self. The choice is ours and ours alone!
Some of us prefer to not experience that sinking feeling of trust violated. Some people choose to not trust by default and thus skirt disappointment. This is both a fallacy and a folly. Trusting releases enormous amounts of mental energy, which is more productively vested elsewhere. But trust – like knives – can be dangerous to your health if used improperly.
You have to know WHO to trust, you have to learn HOW to trust and you have to know HOW to CONFIRM the existence of a mutual, functional sort of trust.
People often disappoint and are deemed not worthy of trust. Some of them act arbitrarily, treacherously and viciously, or, worse, offhandedly. You have to select the targets of your trust carefully. He who has the most common interests with you, who has invested in you for the long haul, who is incapable of breaching trust ("a good person"), who doesn't have much to gain from betraying you – is not likely to mislead you. These people you can trust.
We should not trust indiscriminately. No one is completely trustworthy in every aspect. Most often our disappointments stem from our inability to separate one realm of life from another. Fiction and fact come to mind!
When we do trust, we should trust wholeheartedly and unreservedly. But, we should be discerning. Then we will be rarely disappointed.
It is not so much the act of real or perceived betrayal that we react to as it is the feeling that the very foundations of our little world are crumbling, that it is no longer safe because it is no longer predictable.
Amplifying the HH saga has, therefore, some very utilitarian purposes. Keeping things within proportions helps no end. Putting a breach of trust in perspective goes a long way towards the commencement of a healing process. No betrayal stamps the world irreversibly or eliminates all other possibilities, opportunities, chances and people. Time goes by. It is the very essence of time that it reduces us all to the finest dust. Our only weapon – however crude and naive – against this inexorable process is to trust each other.
Nuff said.....
I came across an article written by the 'Starvation Army', which obviously is not in sympathy with TSA, but some of the comments had the ring of truth about them, such as this:
'Wherever it went the Salvation Army maintained its support for ‘things as they are’. As Booth put it, “a philanthropic body cannot afford to alienate the class which supports it”. This is a notion very much alive in the Army today.'
Is this what did for HH, its vulnerable patients and the Thistles? Is TSA so in hock to secular bodies and institutions that it is willing to sacrifice every Christian principle and every damaged soul on the altar of its worldly bedfellows?
To 'Nuff said'
I agree with your perception of trust, but this is TSA we're talking about - A Christian organisation with Christian leaders, leading a worldwide Christian organisation. Putting the Thistles personally to one side, consider the situation at HH - a humanitarian tragedy of potentially epic proportions because so called 'christian leaders' think more of their corporate and political paymasters than they do for common humanity. How CAN there be trust in these people? And how can we trust in an organisation that appears to be rotten at its core? These are not irrational fears by irrational people - they are real and historically based.
I do believe there will be a time of reckoning for TSA - I do not believe that God raised it up for it to sink so low as to abandon all the Christian principles that we strive to attain.
Such an highly exalted view of what the Salvation Army should be but obviously is not is not mine.
"Each of us have the potential to be manipulated and be the manipulator at the same time. To continue to not trust is to reward the people who have wronged us and rendered us distrustful in the first place. Those folks have long moved on and yet they still have a great, malign, influence on our lives. This is the irony of being distrustful of others to the detriment of self. The choice is ours and ours alone!"
We have the self responsibility to ensure that in any response we in turn do not become another manipulator, accuser, abuser by generalising, using selective emotive language to create a desired effect and above all, remain courteously matter of fact at all times.
This rather detracts from the sin that is ever before us. Failure to acknowledge it, repent of it and be restored and renewed is a gross failure of collective Christian responsibility.
In the Old Testament is a rare story about a young prophet who trusted foolishly and not wisely or discerningly. An older prophet whom the young prophet trusted, ended up killing the young prophet. We are not to trust foolishly but rather wisely.
The Salvation Army, right from its inception, has always had its quota of internal and external, self styled and self appointed prophets of doom, demise and destruction......people who knew exactly what pleases God and how his blessings will be withheld unless......those of today stand in a rich generational tradition as will be those in 100 years time.
'.people who knew exactly what pleases God and how his blessings will be withheld unless......those of today stand in a rich generational tradition as will be those in 100 years time.'
Not sure what that means exactly - maintain the status quo or fight for the right, as in true 'Army' tradition? Leaders can be wrong. Not sure who said this: 'power corrupts but absolute power corrupts absolutely'.
If leadership isn't challenged at all, then a very unhealthy situation arises, as it does when leaders don't respond to challenges. The soldiery are told what to do by the leaders - as it is a quasi military structure, that's the way it is. Who tells the leaders what to do? They are supposed to seek out God's guidance and act in accordance with the Holy Spirit's leadings. If this tragically humanitarian saga is an example of their response, then God help us all.
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