Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Part 6 GLBT The Church, 2012 Double Standards




The church in general and the SA in particular (at least for the moment) in the aftermath of the Eyewitness News program “Cold Facts” – followed closely in FSAOF blog) is under constant attack from the public where the Church is called to account for the prevailing double standards and selective biblical adherence.

There are several issues where the various Christian communities need to consider why we deny gay people the warm acceptance that we willingly give to other people who violate the expectations of purity in many different ways.

Divorce: One of the clearest examples of selective biblical faith must surely be divorce. Moses’ laws accepts divorce in certain cases (Mark 10.2-12), but in the same text Jesus raises the bar and condemned divorce and remarriage declaring its unfaithfulness. Here is a clear case of a chosen lifestyle that goes against the Bible’s word (instructions). Despite this, the Church has long blessed serial-monogamy (multi-marriages), and both welcomed and ordained people who clearly live outside what the Bible prescribes.

Female priests: When Paul writes that the woman should be silent in church (1 Cor 14:34) and that women are not allowed to teach men (1 Tim 2:12) he provides an exegetical interpretation where one willingly accepts the weight provided by the historical perspective and with pleasure adds the weight of Jesus' positive attitude toward women (especially as he is portrayed in Luke). This, in spite of the Bible’s clear words and the Church's historic attitude toward women. The modern church says that the original human dignity, human beings created in God's image, outweighs Paul's admonition to the women of Corinth. I believe it is important to understand that from a historical perspective, it is just as unthinkable to have a female priest as a gay priest.

Extramarital sex, remarriage and cohabitation: On these issues the church stands on rather a weak biblical foundation. It is clear that Paul takes a strong stand against promiscuity. From a biblical perspective sex (sexually activity) at home within marriage has no place, rather it is sex that confirms and shapes/forms marriage. Promiscuity must therefore be equated with ‘multi-marriage’ and cohabitation must be likened to marriage from a biblical perspective, which also means that to end and move away from each other must be equated with divorce. Only if we see the world from an informed perspective based in the Word, can we act correctly in pastoral roles. In other words, if cohabitation (a sexually active relationship) can be considered marriage as the ‘fellowship’ may encourage fidelity and eventually formalize a regulation defining the relationship. (marriage). On the issue of promiscuity one can then, also on Biblical grounds, argue that Paul advises against such a lifestyle (be it homosexual or heterosexual) although the Bible on the whole does not actually condemn polygamy.

Sex during menstruation: I do not know of a single church where this is spoken about, thought it is part of the same Moses’ law that ‘reliably’ dictated existing same-sex relationships. The usual rationalization is that one does not meddle in ‘what happens in the privacy of the bedroom of married couples’; perhaps this attitude should also include GLBT persons.

Pork: the list of Old Testament legislation that Christians generally ignore is long but significantly it may well be that just the (traditional Swedish) Christmas baked ham and hot dogs fall on the list of things which the Lord declares detestable the (tuevah) of Moses. Paul explains clearly in Galatians and insists that compliance with a small portion of the demands complying with the law in its entirety.

Perhaps it is true that if the church continued to say that it is inappropriate for a GLBT person to become a member (or leader, or as in the case of the Salvation Army, a soldier), we have to revisit some of these issues. Because there is a host of other offenses that our congregations clearly approve of, by not distancing itself from it and sometimes even encourages (‘chances’ and lottery in the church, overweight/obesity, judgmental of other people, etc.). I still wonder when the last person was denied leadership or membership based on their greed, inhospitality, divorce / remarriage, or because they eat too many biscuits with their coffee (gluttony)?

If the Salvation Army (to direct the spotlight on the faith community I am a member of) continued to announce that the great soldier's landscape is a lifestyle choice that aims at sanctification, and if you mean by sanctification following a regulations of conduct, should corps not treat all violations against these regulations in the same fashion?

If we choose to discriminate against certain behaviors and rule violations, but look the other way with respect to other behaviors and rule violations, we as a faith community make ourselves guilty of a double standard, that which "Eyewitness News" and part of the public have accused us of.

Though it is clear, the path through the catalog of sins is a path which the Church has tried before with mixed success. Maybe it's time to consider the way of grace. Where we, together with Paul brings to us the freedom message that Jesus preached. Where we recognize that the church is not a club for saints but a healing place for sinners, and when I say sinners, I mean all people. Is it not so that we all miss the target, not only sexually but also outside the bed room. Let us stop being hypocritical and admit that we have not figured this out, trying to live a life of holiness, that it is not only about denying oneself certain behaviors, but instead it is about how we love God and how we love our neighbor. Therefore, we are a church fellowship, seeking to learn how we (one) live a life (enfolded) in love.

I believe that from a secular perspective, a church with that attitude is not only accepted but will be invited to actively participate in the public debate.











Translation: Dr. Sven Ljungholm



12 comments:

Anonymous said...

You hit on a point that comes up more and more in the USA. A man and woman cohabiting together,and these days often having children out of marriage. That scenerio has caused many problems that fall into legal issues as well as moral. Years ago society would shun couples living together. These days many are treated as married or many couples stste that they are married and legally they are not. As a former officer I had to discuss issues with a lady that lived with a man for years outside of marriage. When the man died she was left without anything because the family of her live-in (as next of kin) took all property and funds and she was left with nothing because they were not married. In this case that (piece of paper-marriage certificate) would have been advantageous. As we know the same sex marriages are presenting many new problems. I think that is so because these scenerios should not be.

Usa Former

Anonymous said...

I, for one. believe that Patrick thinks he's speaking on behalf of a silent majority in TSA that shares his views. That is far from the truth, one that readers of this blog will confirm.

And for the thousands of blog visitors who don't know what our position is, here from a USA publication responding to accusations of homophobia and discrimination: (employment, partner benefits, church membership)

"Yes, it is discrimination in the traditional sense of the word—to make a distinction and act accordingly—but not in the current usage of the word which is loaded with connotations of hatred and ignorance.

The Salvation Army is very clear about its position on homosexuality. Their website reads:

“The Army regards the origins of a homosexual orientation as a mystery and does not regard a homosexual disposition as blameworthy in and of itself or rectifiable at will. Nevertheless, while we are not responsible for what we are, we are accountable for what we do; and homosexual conduct, like heterosexual conduct, is controllable and may be morally evaluated therefore in light of scriptural teaching.

“For this reason, such practices, if unrenounced, render a person ineligible for Salvation Army soldiership.”

The Salvation Army believes homosexual behavior is wrong and therefore chooses not to employ individuals participating in that behavior. They oppose legislation that threatens their ability to maintain this freedom to choose whom they will employ.

There is not hatred involved in such a position. They have made a moral distinction and act according to it. Simply because one does not agree with the distinction, it does not make it “discriminatory.”

Furthermore, the Salvation Army does not discriminate according to sexual orientation in the distribution of any of their services. Heterosexual or homosexual, you are still welcomed to benefit from their incredible generosity.

Former
USA East

Anonymous said...

I do agree with the positional statement (USA) concerning homosexuality. Is this the same one world-wide? I think that it is. Some correct me please if I am wrong. I would say we often act like don't ask don't tell.Also the Salvation Army does hire gays in certain positions (non-ministry) such as custodial or office workers.I think that is part of the don't ask don't tell.I have seen this in the USA.

Anonymous said...

Sorry. The last post was written by USA Former.

Anonymous said...

The various iterations of the Positional Statement that have been shared are generally agreed world wide within TSA.

I would however disagree that all are given equal access to TSA services. When I was an active Officer in Australia, I often saw homosexuals either being denied services, or put to 'the end of the cue' because they were gay - the attitude being - 'it's their fault they are in this position - it's proof that what they are doing is wrong. Let's make sure that those who are in this position for no fault of their own get helped first'. That attitude always really made my blood boil - and was one of the factors that forced me out of Officership.

I also saw, when I was working in Rehab, a young gay guy come for drug rehab. All the other guys on the program were encouraged to have their girlfriends come visit them and support them through the program, but he was told he was not allowed to have his boyfriend (of long standing) come visit and support him because his homosexuality was the cause of his drug addiction, and seeing his boyfriend would perpetuate his addiction.

These examples are still the case in many areas of TSA around the world - despite how we would like to think of ourselves, or think we would like to be perceived. The reality is quite different. I know there are corps in the UK that are a little more accepting - even having LO who are gay - but even still in the UK, there are no openly gay officers who have a partner.

So far, I think the series by the Lt., is brilliant. It is saying what has already been said previously - though explaining it better and longer as most previous articles have tried to limit the whole thing to one or two postings. I also think that what he is trying to say so far is that there is no biblical support for an anti-gay position in the church - the Bible does not say anything against homosexuality - so where does the church get its' authority to hold such a position?

I do think that the position that the Lt. is upholding may be a minority position within TSA - but not by much. A few years ago it may have been an extreme minority, but now I think it is only just a minority. I truly believe that if TSA can't come to an agreement on this topic and move forward - ie. change it's position - then I can see a split occurring within TSA.

Just my thoughts.
Yours in Christ,
Graeme Randall
Former Australian East in London

FORMER SALVATION ARMY OFFICERS FELLOWSHIP said...

I spent some time this early AM googling for the SA's int'l positional statement on homosexuality. A number of google results popped up, but the IHQ statement appears to have been temporarily (?) removed.

In any event, I thought blog visitors would be interested to learn who defines what our moral and ethical positions are?

PRODUCING POSITIONAL STATEMENTS
The process of producing, revising or amending positional statements

THE SALVATIONIST MARCH 20, 2010 UKT

WHO ARE WE?
The Moral and Social Issues Council comprises some 15 to 20 Salvationists – officers and soldiers – from many walks of life who have an interest in ethical issues, combined with a love for God and a desire to see his word applied in today’s world…


WHAT DO WE DO?
The council exists to reflect theologically on moral and social issues of significance to the territory. It meets three times a year, usually for a day, but every fourth or fifth meeting takes the form of a weekend conference, where a topic may be discussed in more depth, or a new dimension is added to the deliberations.

It is Masic’s responsibility to make recommendations concerning:
■ Positional statements on moral and social issues;
■ Possible social action;
■ Approaches to the Government on moral and social issues;
■ Guidance to Salvationists on ethical issues.

The Army’s positional statements offer guidance on a range of moral and social issues. While only advisory, rather than binding for individual soldiers, they are seen as the Army’s official view and THEREFORE OFFICERS ARE EXPECTED TO ENSURE THAT THEIR OWN TEACHING AND COUNSELLING IS CONSISTENT WITH THEM. (emphasisSEL)

The primary audience is Salvationists although many other people, including members of faith groups, youth workers and students, can access the statements, which are in the public domain.

Olterman said...

First of, I do not think I am writing for any silent majority. I am writing because it is my belief that our position on GLBTQ is based on the culture in which the SA was formed rather than informed biblical understanding. Furthermore, I believe that the majority of the SA have accepted this position as truth without any reflection, theological, academic or personal.

I also think it is the "charism" of the SA to speak out for those who are marginalised in this case the GLBTQ community.

When it comes to positional statements the Swedish one has recently been altered to omit any reference to homosexuality although it still affirms both mariage and sexuality to be confined to "a man and a woman"

My biggest issue with the SA position on GLBTQ is that it creates an impossible position for councelling and for sharing life and encouraging spiritual growth within the GLBTQ community (more on this in he next couple of posts.)

Olterman said...

I have also been actively working for human rights all my life, this issue even within the SA and framed by the love the sinner idea, is still informed by prejudice and fear rather than facts and compassion.

If we are to fight for human rights, and the intrinsic value of each human being, as a movement then we must also stand up for the GLBTQ community.

FORMER SALVATION ARMY OFFICERS FELLOWSHIP said...

UKlast week, while staying in the SA college, London, my wife and I overheard a conversation in a foreign language. I subsequently learned that the two visitors and the person on the other end of their mobile phone were from the Czech Republic, now living in the UK. One of them had met and become fascinated by this group of uniformed Christians. She soon opened her home to the corps officer, invited Czech friends and initiated a home Bible study. The fellowship grew rapidly and moved their study group of 30 to the corps. Today there are two corps meetings each Sunday, under TSA colours; one in the Czech language numbering some 150+ worshipers.

Might not this be a compromised approach until the time, if ever, that TSA adopt a different and more welcoming position?

Former
Liverpool UKT

Anonymous said...

I as many agree that compassion and service should be applied to people of ALL backgrounds including the gay community. I do not make the final judgement on people's salvation,I am not God. I do believe from the teaching of scripture that two men or two women cohabiting together (regardless of a loving relationship together)and having sexual relations, is sinful and wrong.
I also must say that people can and do make decisions to live sinful lives (in various ways)but we all must face God in the here and now, and in eternity.Many will suffer because of bad choices. When the Bible teaches that (men should not lay with other men as like a woman)I see it as a serious warning especially when the practice is called an abomination. Of course we do not put people to death for this as we are living in a state of grace(N.T. era)but the serious warning was stated in the O.T. and in the N.T.The word (HOMOSEXUAL) does not even need to be used. The description stated in scripture is enough.
I see some of this as serious compromising of God's Word to us. I see some of it from the pit of hell. I also feel that some people (including some Bible commentators)have twisted meaning such as the story of Lot , his wife and the evil practices at Sodom and the region. Inhospitable is a big joke. The people were judged and punished for all sorts of sin- sexual sin, cruelty, false-worship, idolatry, you name it.

I appreciate the Lieutenants views but disagree with some of them, but I am thankful that I have learned even more from this series.
USA Former

Anonymous said...

This article should be the required reading of all leaders in The Salvation Army - not simply because of it's viewpoint relating to the GLBT issue which we as the 'church' face on a daily basis.
The clear and concise and unemotive interpretation of a compelling part of scripture is illuminating and challenging to say the least.
Well done, Patrik (thank you Sven for the translation)
It makes you think ......

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