Tuesday, January 28, 2014

Jamey Rodemeyer has died from your sins


Jamey Rodemeyer is a 14-year-old kid from Buffalo, N.Y., who earlier this week, after years of being bullied for being gay, committed suicide.

If you're a Christian who believes that being gay is a morally reprehensible offense against God, then you share a mindset, worldview and moral structure with the kids who hounded Jamey Rodemeyer, literally, to death. It is your ethos, your convictions and your theology that informed, supported and encouraged their cruelty.

We Christians who believe that God created gay people as much in His own image as he did straight people are begging you to reconsider your theology -- to do nothing more than be open to an alternative, fully credible, scholastically sound interpretation of one or two lines from Paul.

How can you be unwilling to do something so simple, when you see the horrible ultimate cost of that refusal?

Christ died so that you could love more. And now you're part of a system that allows that same Christ to be used as a moral justification for the most vile kind of abuse. How could that have happened? How could something so right have gone so wrong?

Turn, friend. And when you do, open your arms. Discover waiting to embrace you a new Christ behind the relative shell of the one you inherited. Jesus Christ died for your sins. That was unthinkably beautiful. Now Jamey Rodemeyer has died from your sins. That is not. That is the very hell that, awfully enough, you've somehow tricked yourself into believing your life refutes.

Monday, January 27, 2014

Gay Activism Makes Me Tired CONCLUSION



This liberal psychosis is not limited to Ontario.  Earlier this year, the education minister in Alberta was trying to put through the Education Act.  All teachers, including home school teachers, per the act, would have had to change their curriculums to conform to Alberta Human Rights.  My issue with this is that human rights are very subjective.  What this means to me and most others is Christians are no longer permitted to teach Christian values to their children.  The easiest example to pick on is Christians would not be permitted to teach the biblical view that homosexual acts are wrong or sinful.  Again, this was done in the name of diversity and tolerance... just not tolerance of Christians.  This is a common, regularly occurring, disturbing view now.  TOLERANCE FOR ALL (unless you’re a conservative, white, Christian, then keep your opinions to yourself, oh, and change.)

The Education Minister said it was not his intention, nor the intention of this bill, to limit what parents or teachers could teach with respect to religious morality.  The same thing was said about section 13 of the human rights act and it became known as the “hurt feelings” law. The Education Act came scarily close to being law which would have become an issue in the long term.  If the Education Act had passed, I could see parents getting sued by some liberal activist for teaching home schooled children intolerance or hate outside of school hours.  It would be some innocuous thing like parents debating the daily news such as “Love has no gender” around the dinner table, and they end up in the Alberta Human Rights courts for indoctrinating children.  It’s one of the many reasons I’m glad it didn’t make it through third reading.

In our new and interesting world, the trend has become disturbing.  If something is changed in the name of diversity or tolerance, Christians, anyone with traditional values, or opposing views are told they are bigoted or phobic.  Apparently only select diverse differences are tolerated; others are, well, wrong.  Either one is tolerant of differing view and opinions, or they should man up and realize how truly intolerant they are.  The hypocritical “if you disagree with me, you’re racist/homophobic/transphobic/bigoted” crap is as good an argument as “that’s offensive.”

Even strange changes like gender inclusive washrooms happen because of this so called “inclusive,” “tolerant” attitude.  It happened at the University of Victoria.  These washrooms were created for transgendered people who don’t know what washroom to use.  Either gender can use these washrooms.  If anyone speaks out against this, they’re simply told they’re missing the point.  Forgive me but there are not so many “gender benders” out there that we need to start modifying public spaces for them.  My personal thought is, if a person doesn’t know what washroom to use, they’ve got bigger problems.  

What irritates me is that changes like this happen for such a tiny minority.  People who fight for LGBT rights would like us to believe it's for a large percent of the population.  Most reliable demographics models that I find show no more than 1%-4% of the population identify as homosexual or transgendered (two spirited?). So why do we bend over backwards for this group?  It’s gotten bad enough that they want gender removed from our passports!  Give me a break!

I don't think that these topics should be forced on children or anyone else for that matter. Why is this still an issue? Same sex couples have the same rights has male/female couples so what's the problem? Continuing this fight only causes resentment, which is exactly what's happened with me. I was for gay rights, I know a lot of gay people that are quite personable. None of them are “activists.” None of them make me feel like a second class citizen because I'm married to a man and none of them wear their sexuality on their sleeve for everyone to see.

Maybe the LGBT community and gay activists will regain my respect when they don’t expect tolerance from every corner of every household in the known universe.  They need to give me a chance to forget they’re around and realize they’ve blended into society. Then the LGBT community has truly won.  Right now, I find them to be a joke and bunch of self-righteous bullies.

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CALGARY 

Sunday, January 26, 2014

Gay Activism Makes Me Tired PART ONE


This particular topic has been bothering me for some time.  I chose not to say anything because I felt this topic - over others I’ve written about - might somehow make me or my husband a target of hate.  I felt by expressing my opinion about this would trigger threats or attacks more than any other that I’ve made public to date.  I was also worried it would harm my husband’s business or reputation, and then it occurred to me: I was falling for the same rhetoric that a lot of others were falling for.  I stayed quiet out of fear; that meant the liberal side of this debate was winning.  Well, I’m quiet no longer, I understand what I’m about to say is unpopular.

Every time I look at the news, the LGBT community is up in arms or trying to make front page news about something.  Gay activism makes me tired, I don’t want to hear about it anymore.  Fifteen years ago, I would have helped, I would have made the posters, I would have written my MP.  But now, they’ve won their acceptance.  Same sex marriage is legal, companies cannot discriminate against homosexuals, so I ask, what more do they want?  Not everyone is going to be accepted for everything all the time.  Being a vocal conservative woman, I get that.

I believe in freedom of speech, freedom of expression and equality but there is a limit.  I am not for shoving ideologies down the throats of those who don’t agree with me.  Make your point, make yourself heard, fight for the same rights as everyone else and accept the win gracefully.  Don’t demand respect, don’t demand tolerance for your chosen lifestyle, not everyone is going to agree with it.  Let me be clear, I have no issue with sane, rational, gay people who don't feel their sexuality is the focus of their identity.  I do have a problem with people who throw their homosexuality in my face and expect me to respect them because of it.

There appears to be a group of people out there trying to change the definition of “normal.”  It seems though when one does not live an alternative lifestyle (anything LGBT) that person is immediately wrong.  If we dare speak against alternative lifestyles, we’re homophobic or transphobic.  I find this to be a ludicrous concept.  I like this word “debate.”  It’s a good word.  I also enjoy other words and phrases, like “personal opinion” but we’re not allowed to have those anymore unless they follow the party line.  I’m finding my personal opinions don’t follow party line.  At times I’m not sure where the party line is.

Most examples of this Liberal psychosis right now seems to be in the Toronto District School Board.  Not only do they call themselves a gay straight alliance, they promote gender bending to elementary school children, as well as homosexual and polygamist lifestyles.  What happened to public schools teaching things like reading, math, and science?  Family values and morality, as far as I can remember, wasn’t in the curriculum.  So many argue religion doesn’t belong in public schools, so why do LGBT initiatives or alternative family lifestyles?  If one can argue for, one should be allowed to argue against but that simply isn’t the case.

There are also people that promote the idea of raising children as “gender neutral” stating gender is a stereotype.  Gender is not a complex or stereotype, it is physiological.  Women and men are built differently.  We do different things, like, for example, women can get pregnant, men can’t.  Men who “identify as female” should try PMS once or twice.  They would never “identify as female” ever again!

The Ontario anti-bullying law is a confusing one to me.  It says anti-bullying but somehow it’s become another win for the LGBT community.  All schools, public, Catholic, whatever, must permit gay straight alliance clubs.  How did an anti-bullying law turn into a political forum for homosexual lifestyles for teens?  Apparently when this law was created, they missed the part that said sexuality was low on the list of why kids get bullied. Kids get bullied because of their looks, their weight, their grades. So, since looks are the top of the bullying list, why aren't uniforms mandatory in all schools? Then they need to create a fitness regimen so everyone weighs relatively the same, and so forth.  Gay straight alliance clubs should be very far down on the list for methods to prevent bullying.

End Part One

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CALGARY 



Commentary on the daily Bible reading - Psalm 10




Lt. Peter Baronowsky
Jeloy, Norway

Friday, January 24, 2014

A network of supporter for Dr. Paul Thistle




LARRY GILLMAN/Special to the Examiner Toronto-born surgeon Dr. Paul Thistle has settled into his new position at the Karanda Mission Hospital in Zimbabwe. Local Peterborough volunteers who just returned from visiting the hospital will share their stories Jan. 29 at 7 p.m. at the Beth Israel Synagogue.






Toronto-born surgeon Dr. Paul Thistle has settled into his new position at the Karanda Mission Hospital in Zimbabwe and his Peterborough donors intend to join him.

For the last decade a small but passionate group of grassroots donors have raised money for the efforts of Thistle and his wife Pedrinah as they carried out medical work and teaching with a focus on maternal child health and HIV/AIDS at the Salvation Army Howard Hospital in rural Zimbabwe.

During his 16 years as chief medical officer at Howard, Thistle leveraged a massive network of Canadian donors to keep the hospital funded and equipped and helped pay many services for the community such as sending orphans to school. Peterborough donors alone sent an average of $30,000 each year.

All that came to a halt when the Salvation Army removed Thistle from his post in August 2012 under a cloud of controversy. Thistle's supporters say he was removed for blowing the whistle on corruption within the church, an allegation the church has denied, calling Thistle’s removal a routine personnel decision.

Thistle now operates as a surgeon at the Karanda Mission Hospital near Mount Darwin about 100 kilometres northeast of his previous site and about 200 km from the capital of Harare. There, an estimated quarter of a million people are served.

Last month three of Thistle’s long time Peterborough supporters – Brian Nichols, Larry Gillman and David Abramsky travelled to Karanda for the first time.

Gillman said the hospital is in a more remote area of the country than Howard and serves an area with poorer roads and even poorer access to water and decent farm land. During his three-week stay, Gillman said the hospital was lucky to get an hour of running water on some days.

“It’s a more isolated hospital,” Gillman said of his trip. “It seems to be in a more rural, poorer area.”

Rural Zimbabwe remains one of the poorest places on earth and continues to be ravaged by the effects of HIV/AIDS.

An estimated 10,000 children alone are infected with HIV in Zimbabwe each year, with 90% from mother to child transmission.

The three Peterborough volunteers saw that first hand when they organized a clothes and food drive for orphans in the surrounding villages and were inundated with more than 400 orphaned children.

“About 400 orphans showed up. Think about that, 400 just in the area of the hospital,” Gillman said. “It’s a clear sign of the problem when you see those orphans. That’s all HIV/AIDS.”

Karanda was established in 1961 to meet the needs of mission stations in the Zambezi River valley. The mission complex has a nurse training school for about 55 students and a primary school offering Grades 1 to 7 for children of the hospital staff.

Supporters such as Gillman were devastated when Thistle was forced out of his position at Howard and volunteers in Peterborough lost their connection to a place they held close to their hearts.

There were also financial implications as more than $40,000 in building materials raised during two high-profile Peterborough fundraisers in 2011 and 2012 went missing from Howard grounds shortly following Thistle’s ousting.

But that’s not going to prevent suporters from reaching back into the well and convincing Peterborough residents to once again support Thistle’s work, Gillman said.

“You can see Paul and Pedrinah start to get their tentacles out into the new community,” Gillman said.

“Paul and Pedrinah have taken their talents somewhere else. It’s a shame what’s going on with Howard, but people understand that. Howard was fraught with its own politics … it doesn’t negate the work that Paul and Pedrinah are doing to save lives.”

Nichols, Gillman and Abramsky will be holding a gathering Jan. 29 at 7 p.m. at the Beth Israel Synagogue to talk about their recent trip and they invite the public to attend. Supporters are also ramping up for another big fundraiser in late spring.
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What: Stories from Karanda Mission Hospital in Zimbabwe

Where: Beth Israel Synagogue at 775 Weller St.

When: Jan. 29 at 7 p.m.

Who: Peterborough volunteers Brian Nichols, Larry Gillman and David Abramsky will talk about their visit to Zimbabwe last month.

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Homosexuality as a crime!


Russia's powerful Orthodox Church proposed Friday a referendum on banning gay relations in the face of Western pressure over human rights ahead of next month's Winter Olympics in Sochi...

Church spokesman Vsevolod Chaplin pointed to polls showing more than half of Russians viewing homosexuality as either an illness or a crime as a sign that the country was ready to revert to a Soviet-era homosexual ban.

"There is no question that society should discuss this issue since we live in a democracy," Chaplin told the online edition of the pro-government Izvestia daily.
"For this reason, it is precisely the majority of our people and not some outside powers that should decide what should be a criminal offence and what should not," he said...

Chaplin -- an outspoken but also influential Church figure who airs weekly shows on state TV -- claimed that most countries viewed homosexuality as a crime.

"I am convinced that such sexual contacts should be completely excluded from the life of our society," said the Church spokesman.

"If we manage to do this through moral pressure, all the better. But if we need to revert to assistance from the law, then let us ask the people if they are ready for this."

The Soviet Union made homosexuality a criminal offense in 1934 under the totalitarian regime of Joseph Stalin. Russia repealed its sodomy law in 1993.

A prominent member of Vladimir Putin's party, however, told the Interfax news agency that the ban is unlikely to ever go before Russian voters, because Russia is bound by international treaties that forbid banning homosexuality.


John M. Becker

Managing Editor


Thursday, January 23, 2014

TURN THE OTHER CHEEK!



My sister Jeanine tells me that she never really understood what Jesus meant by turning the other cheek until she came out.  She says she never really had to show grace—unmerited favor and regard—toward people who hate her until she discovered she was suddenly the despised “other.” What did the hating look like? Excommunication. Bullying. Religious double-speak such as “we love you unconditionally, but…” Hearing her long term, monogamous relationship and her beloved described as an abomination, and worse, all “in the name of Jesus.”

Coming out in an exclusive, shaming Christian world is the very means by which she has had to wrestle with and choose, again and again to pray Jesus’ prayer: “Forgive them, for they know not what they do.”

We have talked about the irony of this turn of events a lot over the years, partly because I am a theologian and she is a therapist. We know from our own journeys and from our work in tending hearts and souls, that what passes as teaching on human sexuality in most churches is woefully incomplete and often just plain wrong. The problem, we think, is that the wrong set of questions shapes the discussion. Are you homo (bad) or hetero (good)? Having sex with anyone besides your own spouse (bad)? Married (good) or single (highly suspect)? These questions are too simplistic and too dualistic. They assume too much and ask too little.

It is past time to ask new, better questions about sexual virtue and sexual vice. The springboard for the new questions is not genitalia but imago Dei, the inherent sanctity and dignity of human life.

The homo that has our attention is homo sapiens. Do we understand ourselves and others as human beings made in the image of God?

The question of sexual orientation that concerns us is not whether people are hetero but are vehemens, having an orientation toward violence.

I believe sexual vice is behavior that in some way does violence to self or others sexually. This kind of vice can be physical or verbal, and as Jesus reminds us, mental and emotional. It is always spiritual. Abstinance from sexual vice is far more challenging than resisting fornication.

Sexual vice is sinful first and foremost because it violates, exploits, objectifies, manipulates, takes advantage of, and uses human beings. It treats humans made in the image of God, as commodities. Sometimes sexual vice is carried out to give pleasure to the perpetrator of the sin. Often it is an act in which domination is the goal, rather than sex per se. Sexualizing others, internet bullying around sexuality, sexual abuse of all kinds, sexual domestic violence…these are just a few of the possible sexual sins. So much of the fruit of sexual vice is sexual self-loathing, self harm, and self deception about one’s sexuality.

Sexual sin goes on all the time within the bonds of marriage including rape, sexual shaming, forced marriage between little girls and grown men in some cultures, and many other dehumanizing actions.

Violence against sexual minorities because of their sexuality is yet another area of sexual sin.

Corporate sexual sin is the name of the game in the advertising industry that objectifies and exploits the bodies of women and little girls to sell everything from jeans to plumbing. Ditto for the entertainment industry in which entire television programs are built around shaming women’s bodies. There is the cancerous, lucrative, soul-destroying universe of porn which feeds on images of human bodies, and yes, real humans are harmed in the making of porn.

Sexual sin objectifies and stereotypes men through cultural norms and expectations that reward the bifurcation of emotion from sexual activity, and that sexualize men to the point that every man is viewed as a potential sexual predator.

In light of sexual sin as a violent orientation, what then is sexual virtue? Is it not a deep integrity, respectfulness, and authenticity in how one lives one’s sexuality? Does it not begin with a fundamental respect for one’s identity as someone made in the image of God and then extend outward to other persons? Is it not inherently reverent of embodiedness?

Sexual virtue neither begins nor ends with genitalia, but with fully accepting, loving, and wisely stewarding our whole, embodied life as human beings. It begins with a deep commitment to the theological concept of imago Dei and loving one’s neighbor as oneself. It grows with a daily commitment to first do no harm and second, do all the good we can to ourselves, our neighbors, and our enemies.

If we will address sexual virtue and sexual vice with a new and better set of questions, we will find our way out of the morass of violence against the sexual “other.”  We will be able to move forward into a deeper, more human and ultimately more holy understanding of embodiment. We will become better practitioners of sexual virtue.

Elaine A. Heath, Ph.D., M.Div.

Co-Founder, Academy Director | Missional Wisdom Foundation
McCreless Professor of Evangelism, SMU Perkins School of Theology

Dr. Elaine Heath is a visionary leader and theologian, a mystic, an instigator, and passionate believer in the power of the Holy Spirit. Elaine is the initiator of New Day and the Epworth Project, which are networks of new monastic, missional communities in the Dallas/Ft. Worth Metroplex. She holds a B.A. in English, Oakland University, a Masters of Divinity from Ashland Theological Seminary, and a Ph.D. Theology from Duquesne University. Dr Heath is an elder of the United Methodist Church.

Wednesday, January 22, 2014

A PASTOR I HAVE NEVER MET WANTS ME ‘DEAD’!!



I have never met the pastor of the Providence Baptist Church in Maiden, North Carolina, but according to the sermon he preached on or about May 13, 2012, and was broadcast in a video on YouTube, Pastor Charles L. Worley wants me dead.

And Pastor Worley has the answer of how he would make this happen, and I quote from his sermon on May 13, 2012, (this was the day after I celebrated my 66th. birthday):

“Build a great, big, large fence- 150-100 mile long – put all the lesbians in there.  Every day fly over and drop food in.  Do the same for the queers and homosexuals, and have the fence electrified so they can’t escape….and you know what….they’ll die out….do you know why?  They can’t reproduce!”

Some wonder why gay Christians do not attend church and sense excluded from most evangelical and fundamentalist churches. Just read the comments above again, and those of countless others who readily preach, believe, and proclaim as God’s ambassadors, similar hate messages.  Ordained ministers and other Christians who preach that gay/lesbian and transgended people should be exiled, imprisoned, removed from family, friends and “condemned” to a slow death...or, a quicker death by stoning as discussed by Pastors Kevin Swanson and Dave Buehner on Generations Radio recently in response to a Gay couple being married on a Rose Bowl Parade Float:  ..…”I wonder what the Rose Bowl Parade would do if we had a stoning of a homosexual along the Parade route, just as an expression of free speech and all that.” Pastor Buehner mused.

Why aren’t gay Christians open and honest about themselves at mainstream churches (and the SA), and why do gay Christians remain in the shadows/closeted around Christians who believe as the Pastors above believe?  It is simply because many gay Christians do not feel safe or comfortable talking about one’s spouse/family around certain Christians because we know the judgments will be made; at times verbally, at times silently, but always made - and then exclusion often follows.  


I was born into a large loving family (10 children) with heterosexual parents.  This all makes me wonder if perhaps the parents of gay children should also be put into electrified fences/pens with gays/queers and homosexuals or stoned to death because they gave birth to gay children?  I have gay friends who have heterosexual children (their biological children through artificial insemination or service of a surrogate to give birth to their children).  Should those heterosexual children be put in pens with those gay people, or stoned for fear that they may carry a “gay gene”? 

The reality is, gay people will not “die off” as this pastor and others might wish. We are all created by the same God, and we are all part of the natural range of ‘normal’. 

It does cause me to wonder, if and when the hate thoughts and rhetoric will ever end?

It is difficult for me to understand or grasp what motivates or compels those in some churches, to exclude gay Christians and even think such hateful and unkind things about fellow Christians.

With many others, I question, what would Jesus do??  Would Jesus put gay people behind electrified fences, exclude them from family/friends, and just let them die off?

John 3:16-17  “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.  God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. “

I am created in God’s image!  I am God’s child!  I belong to the family of God!  God offered salvation to the whosoever.  It was not limited to those religious denominations that practice or do not practice certain sacraments; not limited to those who only believe in the King James Version of the Bible as the inerrant word of God; or to those who believe they can exclude any of God’s children from worship and inclusion.  God sent Jesus so that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.  There is no “Except”, with an addendum of those excluded.  Whosoever includes everyone:  Jew, Gentile, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, Arabian, African, Russian, Chinese, etc.; Heterosexual, Homosexual, all who BELIEVE, and join the WHOSOEVER, are welcome as children of the living God.     

That “Whosoever” includes me, and all other Christians gays.  I know God created me gay!  I know I did not make a choice to be gay!  I was born gay in a family where the reference to ‘gay/homosexual’ was never even uttered.  I did not understand or come to realization of what that “difference” was; that difference I have felt and known all my life, even after I accepted Jesus Christ into my heart/life and became a Christian at a young age.  It was much later in my late 30’s when I came to understand and realize I was gay, created as such by God who made my life new and whole through Christ Jesus. 

SVEN, GLAD and ME
I am a Christian; a daughter, sister to 9 siblings; an aunt 18 times; great aunt 25+ times; great-great aunt a dozen or so times; a former SA Officer; published gospel song writer; composer; accomplished guitarist; advocate for people with developmental disabilities; including an advocate for my friend B.G.; a former school teacher; a retired social worker; a gay woman; and married to a woman, my spouse of almost 30 years.

Perhaps these pastors and other Christians who preach hate, exclusion, exile, and even death do so, if even in a small part, because they do not know any gay Christians, and for them we are a faceless, silent group.  Perhaps we, as gay Christians who have loved and served God in many different places and walks, need to break through that silence and unite our voices in witness, love and truth!

I can only speak for myself, and I invite others to join me in this dialogue!
We all lose so much, and miss out on so many blessings and experiences when we judge and/or exclude any child of God!  I gladly give God the glory for all He has accomplished through my life, and how He continues to use my life for His purpose.

I am blessed to be a child of the King!  


Iva Lou Samples
Former SA Officer, USA South

Homosexuality and The Salvation Army


Occasionally I will get an email in my inbox from teenagers who I worked with, mentored, prayed with, hung with, and simply spent time with during my three years in my last appointment. Often these emails are simple notes of “catching up,” but usually they arrive when the sender is going through some challenge, frustration, or new experience that life has thrown their way. While I normally look forward to these emails, I received one from a young lady earlier this summer that I was absolutely not prepared for. Here was her question:

Sheldon, what are your thoughts on Bisexuality? 

I won’t go into detail about everything that I said in my response, but it pretty much lines up with The Salvation Army’s Position Statement on Gay and Lesbian Sexuality which reads:

The Salvation Army upholds the dignity of all persons. For this reason, and in obedience to the example of Jesus Christ, whose compassionate love is all-embracing, The Salvation Army does not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation in the delivery of its services.

The Salvation Army believes that God’s will for the expression of sexual intimacy is revealed in the Bible, and that living fully in accordance with biblical standards calls for chastity outside of heterosexual marriage and faithfulness within it. We do not believe that same-sex attraction is necessarily blameworthy and we oppose the vilification and mistreatment of gays and lesbians. We believe that we are accountable for the ways in which we express our sexuality. While recognizing the challenge that this presents, The Salvation Army believes firmly in the power of God’s grace to enable all to live in a manner that is pleasing to Him.

In keeping with our mission, we are committed to proclaiming the good news of salvation, the forgiveness of sins, and transformation by the Holy Spirit. We welcome all seekers of faith in Christ to explore Salvation Army church life.

The Salvation Army, Canada & Bermuda, October 2002


Basically we believe that God intended marriage and sexual relations to be between man and woman. But that doesn’t imply that we should persecute or mistreat those who are engaged in same-sex relationships. All people were created in the image of God, and God loves us all the same despite who we are married to, dating, or yes, even sleeping with! I personally believe that openly gay members of our society should not only feel welcome inside the walls of Salvation Army churches, but they should be treated no differently from the other members of the congregation.

BUT!

Where do we stand on issues of church involvement by homosexuals? On two separate occasions this summer this issue has been raised in two different Salvation Army congregations.

In the first congregation, an Officer/Pastor has been criticized greatly for allowing an openly Lesbian female to sing in the worship team of their church and play her guitar? Is this okay?

In the second congregation, the Officer/Pastor is battling how to respond to a request from a homosexual couple who have asked if they can assist in various areas of ministry in the church. 

Should they be allowed?

Here is where I am not sure about where I stand. I have said on numerous occasions that I would allow an “unsaved/un-professing” individual to take part in various areas of worship (like playing in a worship team) as it may very be the avenue that leads them into a life of commitment in Christ. But what if I said “no” to a homosexual guitar player simply because of his sexual preferences, isn’t that a bit hypocritical?

Is there any one sin greater than the other?

Is it okay for an overweight Pastor to rebuke a congregant because of their sexual orientation?

Is it okay for a gossiping choir director to rebuke an alcoholic?

Is it okay for a church secretary who is secretly stealing church funds to tell a promiscuous teenager that they are living in sin?

Help me here on this one. We are taught to invite and welcome homosexuals into our congregations, we are told to love them, but when they want to get involved we immediately put up barriers. Is this okay?

What do you think?


About Me
My name is Sheldon and over the last few years people have often described me as: “Inquisitive!” meaning that 1.) I am eager for continuous knowledge, but also 2.) I “pry” people for more information. 

I am also a Minister in The Salvation Army with the Rank of “Captain,” and for those who know me best, they will know that I LOVE all things Italian, thus the name Il Capitano Inquisitore: The Inquisitive Captain. This blog is intended to be a place for me to write about things I love, struggle with, and/or am challenged by, as I continue to search for ways to be a better Minister, Husband, Father of Two, and of course Child of God! In time, I am sure that this blog will cover other topics as well: Sports, Books, News, People, and that list goes on, but please remember that anything expressed in this blog will be my opinion ONLY, and I trust that for anyone who reads my words, will also be challenged/impacted in some way! Blessings!

Tuesday, January 21, 2014

Salvation Army in (Kristiansund) Norway bars gay man


NOT MR. ARE VERAAS
Salvation Army in  (Kristiansund) Norway bars gay man
04 Dec 2013

A member of the Salvation Army in Norway has been barred from becoming a secretary in the organisation because he is gay.

Mr. Are Veraas has been a member of the Christian charity-church since he was 19, and was overjoyed when he was asked last month to act as a secretary to the (local) congregation .

After he told the Salvation Army's local leadership that he was in a relationship with another man, however, he found the offer suddenly withdrawn. 

"To not be true to myself, or to call my boyfriend just 'a friend' so that I'm worthy to be appointed secretary, is just not good enough," Veraas told Norway's TV2 channel. 

He said that he had felt completely accepted by the Salvation Army when he first came out as a gay man after his marriage broke up eleven years ago, and never realised that the group's leaders believed he did not have an active sexual life. 

"It was mentioned that they thought I was celibate, because I was not living with my wife anymore," he said. 

Andrew Hannevik, spokesman for the organisation in Norway, said that the group's local leadership was simply following the guidelines set by the global organisation. 

"Gay people in a (sexual) relationship with others are not permitted to be soldiers or officers in the Salvation Army," he said. "It's based on the fact that the Salvation Army is a Christian church and our understanding of The Bible."    

A new (Norwegian) law effective Jan 2014 will not alter the Salvation Army’s position’.

Are Vera thinks, ‘it's discrimination that he did not get the appointment in the Army because he is gay and has a boyfriend ‘.

 On 1 January, the new anti-discrimination laws comes into effect, but (private) communities- are still protected .

By Synnøve Gjerstad , Kadafi Zaman
and Kjersti Johannessen
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The leader of the country’s association for lesbians and gays , Bård Nylund , is among those who are upset about the history of Are Vera .

- I never cease to be amazed at the Salvation Army and many other religious communities still fail to treat people with dignity and in an equal manner , he said to TV 2

New law does not help Are

1 January will be the new Equality Act introduced in Norway . Nylund said Tuesday that he hopes that it will then be difficult for communities to discriminate.

However, according to the Ministry of Children , Equality and Social Inclusion Act will not contribute to big changes for Are Vera, or others who feel discriminated against by religious communities.

In a statement to TV 2 Wednesday said the ministry that they do not wish to comment on individual cases , and that the Equality and Anti-Discrimination Ombud ( LDO ) that enforces anti-discrimination legislation and processes complaints of discrimination .

Generally speaking, states BLD that there are changes in the new discrimination laws or working law when it comes to faith (based groups).

- New discrimination laws were passed by Parliament before the summer and comes into force on 1 January 2014. Whether or not this specific case is contrary to the prohibition against discrimination in legislation - LDO says it may need to consider in an email to TV 2

Equality and Anti-Discrimination Sunniva Ørstavik told TV 2 that it basically is a shame that people are excluded important positions in our society because of their sexual orientation.

- Is this illegal?

- No, probably this is in line with current legislation . It is such that it does not protect you against discrimination based on sexual orientation outside employment and housing . In this case we are talking about a position in a religious community .

Should it include all?

Østavik says Salvation Army thus probably has the law on his side.