Monday, September 16, 2013

MONDAY IN ZIMBABWE - ONE YEAR LATER



The FSAOF has been encouraged to feature a series of articles focusing on the morality and ethics exhibited by a multi-national organizations that operates in a totalitarian, autocratic and militaristic fashion - (disenfranchising members). The series begins tomorrow.

We include up-to-date poll results directly following this article.
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Zimbabwe's Best Surgeon, Ordered Back to Canada

Posted: 10/19/2012 

In a country devastated by the AIDS crisis, The Salvation Army Howard Hospital in Zimbabwe is a shining example of community based cooperation and resilience. Under the leadership of Canadian trained physician Dr. Paul Thistle, this small Zimbabwean hospital has achieved an international reputation while fulfilling its mission to meet human needs in a compassionate manner to all those seeking medical care. The Howard Hospital is situated in the Chiweshe communal land of Zimbabwe and serves a catchment area of 270,000 people. The hospital is now on the verge of collapse since Thistle was abruptly dismissed by The Salvation Army leadership last August.

Before his dismissal, Thistle started his day at the hospital at 7:15 a.m., supervising rounds with the staff, then starting a busy operating room schedule, then attendance at the outpatient clinic, followed by on-site ward rounds. He would leave for dinner at approximately 7 p.m., spending a short time with his family and then get to work on the computer dealing with his administrative duties.
Most evenings and nights were interrupted by a return to the hospital for emergency surgeries or critical events on the wards. This pace would go on six days a week and then included further administrative work and attendance for emergencies on Sundays. His rare furloughs in Canada involved non-stop fundraising and development of partnerships to help maintain the programs at the Howard. He had kept up this exhausting pace for over 17 years. Fortunately he is a man blessed with incredible energy, good humour and a positive attitude. This enabled him to continue his duties despite the enormous challenges of trying to give first class medical care in a rural developing world setting with an ongoing HIV crisis and severe economic challenges.
Despite these challenges, it is important to emphasize how successful the Howard Hospital has been at providing first class medical care. This is partially due to Thistle's enormous talent as a clinician and surgeon. Thistle was trained as a physician and then as an Obstetrician/Gynaecologist at the University of Toronto. Canadian surgical volunteers have worked side by side with him at the Howard, and all are in awe of the technical prowess, efficiency and professionalism with which he gives outstanding care despite severe challenges.
Thistle is able to do this due not only to having been blessed with "great hands" and a gift as a surgeon, but also due to his paying attention to all of the details necessary to work safely and successfully in this environment. Morning staff rounds always included Thistle quietly checking the batteries of the flashlights to make sure that when the inevitable power outages occur he would be assured that the flashlights will be working to allow the operation to be safely completed.
Like everything he does, he took on this responsibility because it is crucial for patient care. No task was "beneath him." He gave everything he has to the care of his patients and they saw this. He treated all patients with respect and deep heartfelt compassion. His co-workers were also treated to a generosity of spirit, gentleness and respect. It is for these reasons that he is deeply loved by the local community.
The Howard's success is also due to the numerous community-based programs for men, women and children living with HIV/AIDS and other chronic diseases. The Howard Hospital's HIV/TB treatment centre, Tariro (Hope) Clinic is a place of counselling, treatment and care for 2,500 adults and children living with HIV. In a country where health care institutions have a fee for service model, the Howard has never turned a patient away for financial reasons. The hospital's Mobile HIV Treatment Program was designed for patients who cannot afford to travel to the hospital to access services. Its Home Based Care program enlists volunteers, nurses and chaplains to care for the 5,000 residents living with AIDS and other chronic diseases.
Under Thistle's leadership, the Howard was the first facility in Zimbabwe and one of the first in Southern Africa, to offer a prevention of mother to child transmission of HIV program. Many other medical firsts for Zimbabwe have also started at the Howard due to Thistle's initiative. The Howard was the first site to offer the new WHO mandated breastfeeding approach, and in fact started the program two years before the guidelines were published.
The first program to detect drug resistant TB in Zimbabwe was recently started at the Howard. In fact, under Thistle, the Howard was a National and International leader in medical innovation. We are aware of at least 17 different peer reviewed publications or presentations at International medical meetings all based on Thistle's work. This would be remarkable in any situation, but to do this from a rural mission hospital is unprecedented.
Thistle worked not only to assure excellent medical care at the Howard Hospital, but also to assure that there was an improvement in medical standards throughout the country. He trained medical students from the University of Zimbabwe, with students getting rural experience at the Howard. He was very involved with the College of Physicians in Harare, which ensures that all physicians working in the country are properly certified, and receive ongoing education and training. The commitment to teaching is a family process within the Thistle household, with his wife Pedrinah also being a talented and highly respected nursing educator and midwife.
It was not just the medical care of the community that Thistle and his wife attended to. The general community welfare was critical to both of them. Paul and Pedrinah were deeply involved in the care of local orphans. Quietly and without fanfare, Dr and Mrs Thistle assured that local boys and girls receive the care and love that they need. This involved individual attention to help keep the children in school and getting them the funding to make that possible. It also involved supporting local orphanages with fund raising. Even with his busy schedule, Thistle found time every Sunday evening to play ball hockey with the local children. He made sure that they have equipment, and made sure their needs are being met. These games were deeply loved by the children with 20-30 coming every week to play.
An international outcry sounded when Thistle and his wife were relieved of their duties without warning or cause. The Thistles, Salvation Army Officers, were ordered by The Salvation Army leadership to abandon their home and work, and return to Canada. The tragedy is that it is innocent Zimbabweans who are being punished in a most inhumane way.
Thistle's abrupt dismissal from the Howard Hospital has led to a rapid decrease in medical services and has dealt devastating blow to the community. Thistle is the only surgeon in the region, and in his absence most elective and emergency surgery has ceased. The very existence of the hospital and the survival of its many community based programs are now under threat. The Salvation Army has not proposed a transition plan. Their leadership did not consult with the community before making a decision that affects their lives and their deaths.
After over 17 years of Thistle at the helm of the hospital, no plans were considered to involve him in the handing over of the clinical reigns to an incoming physician or surgeon. No incoming physician or surgeon has yet even been identified by The Salvation Army leadership and no start date has been indicated. The once thriving hospital is operating at 10 per cent capacity. The thousands of patients receiving Anti-Retroviral Therapy for HIV are now at risk of defaulting on their treatment. Fifteen hundred orphans and vulnerable children were left without financial support to pay for school fees this September and thus have not been able to attend their classes. The residents of Chiweshe have forcefully stated their support of Thistle, and have demanded that he be reinstated.
Thistle has been a loyal member of The Salvation Army and has not spoken out against it in public. We are aware of allegations of corruption and misuse of donor funds and donated goods by The Salvation Army in Zimbabwe. We believe that Thistle's attempts to maintain the integrity of accounts has raised the ire of The Salvation Army Church in Harare and is likely the reason for their insisting on his prompt removal.
We have had the privilege to work closely with Thistle for many years. We know him to be honest, reliable, and motivated by compassion. We, like hundreds of others, have been inspired to do whatever we could to help the Howard after witnessing the incredible commitment, professionalism, and devotion with which Thistle has cared for both his patients and the entire local Zimbabwean community.
This is a humanitarian crisis unfolding before our eyes. A group of concerned doctors and other professionals have formed the Interfaith Friends of Howard Hospital (IFHH). We have all worked as volunteers beside Thistle in Zimbabwe and have facilitated millions of dollars' worth of medical equipment, medicine and funds, including grants from international aid agencies, Canadian registered charities, and faith-based groups. Future donations to the hospital are now in jeopardy, as donors are no longer confident that there is adequate management or supervision on the ground to ensure that donor dollars are utilized for their intended purpose.
Our efforts to work to address this crisis with The Salvation Army leadership at its Canadian and International headquarters have been fruitless. The Salvation Army leadership continues to ignore the crisis precipitated by their removal of this exceptionally qualified surgeon from his practice.
The Salvation Army leadership has offered no explanation to the people of Chiweshe or supporters of the Howard Hospital as to why it has suddenly pulled the brakes on the exceptional model of sustainable health care. It has a moral obligation to permit the Thistles to return to their positions at the Howard Hospital. The Salvation Army leadership must take responsibility for the devastation they have caused, and restore hope and healthcare to those it professes to serve. This is a particularly great shame as The Salvation Army does inspiring and important work around the world. It is critical that this situation is rectified promptly in order to regain the trust that volunteers and donors have placed in this venerable institution.
Some might ask whether it would not it be better for Thistle to return to Canada? After all, clearly he could do dramatically better financially working as a physician in Canada where the opportunities for him are limitless. He could work in a Canadian facility where resources are plentiful and most of the inconveniences would be taken care of by a strong support network and infrastructure providing a steady source of medical supplies and equipment.
Where the work days would be much shorter and he would have surgical colleagues to cover for him so that he could get a reasonable amount of time off. But Thistle does not want this. He wants to stay at the Howard. The only reason is because he worries about the 270,000 people in the surrounding area and how they will access affordable medical care if he leaves. Thistle once said, "I went into medical school in order to work where I can best serve, not just where I can make money." He and Pedrinah are resolute that they can't leave and abandon the community that they have grown to love and become a deep part of.
As a physician, Thistle has sworn an oath not to abandon his patients unless he can directly transfer care to another physician who has the necessary skills and is able to accept immediate responsibility. As a soldier in The Salvation Army he is being ordered to break this solemn oath. No reason for this order has been provided by The Salvation Army other than that this has been "determined by leadership." To ask for dedicated staff to break ethical principles without any specific reason being given except that it has "been determined" is an unacceptable practice for a humanitarian and religious organization.
There are very few true heroes. The term is used all too often for and by people who perform everyday good deeds that seem to suggest a strong moral sense but no great personal sacrifice. Very rarely do true heroes emerge. Paul and Pedrinah Thistle are heroes. They have chosen to do something that involves enormous long term personal sacrifice for the benefit of their community. We need to do everything we can to support the few real heroes that God blesses us with.
Dr. Michael Silverman, MD, FRCP, FACP. Global Scholar, PAS Center for International Health, Mount Sinai Hospital
Sarah Zelcer, Director of International Programs, Ve'ahavta: The Canadian Jewish Humanitarian and Relief Committee
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45 comments:

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know exactly what's going on at the Howard Hospital at the present time? A previous poster said this:

'To the abhorrence and shock of certain folks, HH has not fallen apart let alone closed down, is still serving the local community effectively, funding is still being sought and obviously found, students are still being trained, senior members of medical staff have been appointed, organisations such as Rotary International still support materially etc etc etc'.

Can anyone verify or refute this?

Anonymous said...

This near one year old article (19/10/12) is terribly misleading if it is being presented under 'Huff Post 4 September 2013'

I know that people are scratching around for any tid bit of new negative info, it just is not there otherwise it would have been posted. If there is nothing worthwhile and fresh to say, it is best to keep ones mouth shut. Stale breath....brrrrr

There is just nothing more to report on this matter beyond that which is being boringly repeated again and again. That makes for an apathetically boring web blog. Going by the lack recent contributions says it all. People have switched off (if they were ever switched on in the first place)

There have been a number of occasions that have led some to doubt credibility and integrity as to the motives of some posters. This has resulted in the withdrawal of some very articulate and credible key people who do not seem to have an axe to grind and can see the bigger picture rather than just one single issue blown out of all proportions.

HH is alive and well, serving the local community with its usual integrity and commitment. That must be really galling to some!

Have a good day in Christian service.



Anonymous said...

'Seek and you will find' but you will have to seek in the right places - the info is 'out there' ok, freely availably on the www

Blessings

Anonymous said...

If it's an an apathetically boring web blog, why are you reading it?

Anonymous said...

some light entertainment?

Martin Richards said...

"HH is alive and well, serving the local community with its usual integrity and commitment. That must be really galling to some!"

That's wonderful news from Anonymous 2. I will look forward to reading the reports from the visiting physicians and seeing the pictures from visiting journalists and photographers. But until I do Anonymous 2, you'll have to forgive me if I don't take the Zim/IHQ/Canada PR departments' word as gospel on this.

And by the way Anonymous 2, no hidden agenda here. Just a 4th generation Salvationist - soldier, never an officer - who is very disturbed by what he has seen from the SA over the past year.

Anonymous said...

The date of the Huff's original posting is clear enough- but for the true seeker, he'll always find room for criticism.

Why, if the HH is providing effective service are those suffering and in need of health services making the arduous journey and traveling many hours to be treated by Dr. Thistle at the Karanda Mission hospital?

More SA spin! Appaling and reprehensible.

Looking forward to this week's series.

FORMER SALVATION ARMY OFFICERS FELLOWSHIP said...

Subject: Thank you for your advocacy for the Thistles and Howard Hospital

Dear Jolinda Cooper, (FSAOF) I am writing to thank you for your advocacy and your inspiring testimonial in the recently released report regarding the Thistle's and Howard Hospital.

I first worked at Howard in 2006, at which time I developed what has become a now seven-year relationship with the Thistle family and many of the other community members at Howard and in the surrounding Chiweshe villages. I worked there for much of 2006, then again in 2007, 2009, and after being gone for a few years (in Nepal) returned for a brief period in 2012, shortly prior to the debacle that your report details. Paul, Pedrinah, James, Alexander, and the Chiweshe community have become family to me, and my passion and commitment to Howard Hospital's mission will never go away, regardless of the unfathomable and appalling corruption of the SA. I am not personally a member of the SA, and will not comment on the organization broadly, but for these particular actions, I will always struggle to forgive the SA.

All that being said, I wish to extend my deepest gratitude and respect to you and all the unnamed persons who have contributed to this report. While I will never be at peace with this tragedy, it warms my heart to see advocacy and true witness such as this. I am sadly not optimistic for the future of Howard, but I do believe that the lessons learned from this awful legacy will hopefully help us all build a better movement for social justice in the future.

If my voice / anecdotal history would ever be of use to you, please do not hesitate to contact me. I would be honored to assist in any way I can. It is my obligation to the Thistles, to Howard, and to the Chiweshe community, for all that they have given me.

With gratitude and respect,
NAME ON FILE

Anonymous said...

Anonymous,

I will tell you what I find boring and offensive, are your posts which constantly spew out spin, and belittle others who have spent hours advocating for justice as it concerns Dr. Thistle. If my guess is right as to your identity, I know that you would be extremely embarrassed if it were to be revealed. The real question is what is your motivation? Are you simply entertaining yourself under the guise of anonymity? It that is the case, it is miles away from seeking to be like Jesus. The Salvation Army really doesn't need your feeble attempts at defending itself. Silence trumps sin any day!

Anonymous said...

Silence trumps spin any day, but belittling others is a form of bullying so sin is still appropriate! Take heed lest you fall!

FORMER SALVATION ARMY OFFICERS FELLOWSHIP said...

Anonymous wrote: " People have switched off (if they were ever switched on in the first place)".

Interesting comment- we had three IHQ visitors this morning; 60 days ago typically one per day.

A recent newcomer; Houses of Parliament, London; wonder why they're showing interest? And the three multiple daily visits by SA THQs in various world corners.

And, if they've "switched off", are the majority of the thousands of visitors since we lessened our focus on HH and IHQ's shameful decisions all newcomers? Would be thrilled if they were!

Anonymous said...

FSAOF, as a former I am so pleased you've not deleted the moronic comments by 'People have switched off (if they were ever switched on in the first place)'.

Without his input we'd never know just how brainwashed and misguided these dear ones are.

Chicago, Il

Anonymous said...

Some good comments. How can one switch off to this disgraceful situation. Even though this maybe the case for the few there is need ti keep up the momentum for answers.

Its good IHQ and many Hqs across the World are dipping in. Let's pray the visitors are asking questions if there peers and leaders. Even if we cannot see this happening. I hope and pray this is seen and heard in the deafning silence.

It is also good the the UK Parliament have visited. It shows that interest is far from waining.

Remember in a storm wind the calm before is the longest period. Then the storm hits. So in our silent unrelenting prayer we are bombarding heaven who knows what storms the Lord is creating in the hearts of leaders at this time.

May God bless TSA as it contemplates its actions in this tragic situation. Prayer is our most powerful missile.

UK FORMER DE.

Anonymous said...

How can anyone even consider this subject could be classed as light entertainment? That is a shameful comment. My advice to this person is - be careful what you think and say - there is a secular phrase - what goes around comes around. The Christian equivalent is “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit".

Anonymous said...

"If my guess is right as to your identity, I know that you would be extremely embarrassed if it were to be revealed"

Is such a revelation a promise or a not so veiled threat?

bah humbug.....

Anonymous said...

'....you'll have to forgive me if I don't take the Zim/IHQ/Canada PR departments' word as gospel on this.'

The info described is available from unofficial, private sources, including Facebook....happy searching.

Jolinda Cooper said...

The information presented in the Real-time feed can be altered, yes. However, that is not the only tracking method being used to identify location(s) of blog visitors.

Anonymous said...

I feel very sorry for the person goading genuine readers - to have to sink so low as to get his/her kicks from the misery of others (ie the HH community) is the lowest of the low.
It's also a dubious ploy to deflect interest from what is more important.

Jolinda Cooper said...

To the poster writing "The info described is available from unofficial, private sources, including Facebook....happy searching."

Unofficial, private sources? Why be unofficial and why be private?

Since you've obviously seen it, why not share it with us to prove that things are getting better?

Anonymous said...

Even though the Huffington Post article is a year old, it is no less true than it was a year ago, and TSA has not yet apologized for this tragic situation which they caused more than a year ago. Passing time does not alter the facts as they happened, nor does it alter the need for apology.

TSA itself offers no stats to show the situation has improved - they remain silent. We don't see photographer Doug MacLellan being invited back to the Howard to show new imagery of the HH which would support that things have improved.

Is the Swedish surgeon in place yet? If not, GP's cannot do required surgeries.

Are Anteretroviral drugs available and being administered regularly? If not, adults and babies will continue dying of AIDS for no good reason.

I challenge someone at IHQ to prove the facts have been altered and until an external investigation is done, I for one will not believe TSA's leadership.

Anonymous said...

Neither will I, and that's a damning indictment for a Christian leadership. A fuller version of Abraham Lincoln’ famous quote says

“If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain their respect and esteem. It is true that you may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.”

And writer Stephen Covey said

“Trust is the glue of life. It's the most essential ingredient in effective communication. It's the foundational principle that holds all relationships.”

I no longer trust TSA leadership, either to tell the truth, or to do what’s right by any of the people involved in the Howard Hospital debacle.

Trust is essential in a relationship. Where there is none, the consequences are great.

Anonymous said...

Many on this Forum seem to be well behind the times with this issue - the needle stuck in August 2012. Still groping in the dark?

It really surprises me,that you do not have any means of knowing what is happening today at HH, the senior appointments that have been made, the work that is going on at present in the hospital and wider community.

Since you distrust official information not worth the paper it is written on, try finding out via ordinary private channels in Zimbabwe and elsewhere. It is out there ok and freely available.

What I do not trust this blog with is the names of individuals - that could lead to personal harassment and would be unprofessional practice. This I would not want on my conscious.

Have a wonderful day.

Anonymous said...

sorry - should read : conscience

Anonymous said...

"The information presented in the Real-time feed can be altered, yes. However, that is not the only tracking method being used to identify location(s) of blog visitors"

Of course there will be other methods but by going into Real-time on the side of this blog, you can still turn off your IP address details and also change your location to wherever you want it to be.

A very good and useful tool indeed.

Anonymous said...

Excellent article today on IHQ,S WEBPAGE regarding the present situation at Howard Hospital.

Anonymous said...

To the person who wrote: 'It really surprises me,that you do not have any means of knowing what is happening today at HH, the senior appointments that have been made, the work that is going on at present in the hospital and wider community.'

Anyone with half a heart would realise that most of the people who read and contribute to the blog articles have a real concern for the HH community, and if anyone had any positive news about the community they would share it with the others, not act like a spoilt child showing a retrograde personality disorder.
Someone should tell you this isn't a Christian thing to do, as you don't seem to know instinctively. You should also note that it is more blessed to give.

Anonymous said...

".....you can still turn off your IP address details and also change your location to wherever you want it to be.
A very good and useful tool indeed."

For goodness sake, grow up. There are far more important things in life. I doubt if the readers are interested in the level of your nefarious IT skills.

Anonymous said...

Tetchy eh?

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, this article should set the cat amongst the pigeons alright. Now just waiting for the feathers to start flying. It should increase expressed blog traffic a little over the coming days. Exciting!

Anonymous said...

Not at all - seriously, just read through your contributions - they come across as just puerile and inconsequential. It's not a lightweight topic - a fact you seem unable to grasp.

Anonymous said...

I've just read the IHQ article.
I would like to commend the FSAOF for pursuing this topic for so long - if it weren't for your consistent efforts, the whole issue would have been totally buried and no progress would have been made.
it looks as if all your hard work has paid off. It's certainly got TSA seeking damage limitation, which is a good thing if the people of Chiweshe are benefitting.
It's a detailed and informative article, with some hint of the trouble prior to Dr Thistle's dismissal, but some positives to look forward to.
The photo essay looked a bit desperate, as most of the photos didn't relate to HH activities, and there wasn't much to back up the tone of the written words, but there's now a structure in place for the hospital to move forward and improve to benefit the community there, if TSA comes good on its promises.
There is the promise of a new HH website - but we've been given no reasons for the old one vanishing. And I found the statement about the surgeon that was promised last year confusing. And not one word of praise for Dr Thistle after so many years of exemplary service showed a hint of a mean spirit. Not what you'd expect from spiritual people. Whatever issues they had with him, I'm sure the good outweighed the bad and should have been acknowledged generously.
If I'd read this article without knowing anything of the prior situation I would have accepted it without question, but now ...... given TSA's defensive silence .....I'll have to wait to be convinced.

Jolinda Cooper said...

I've read the article through a couple of times, but intend to give it a slower and more careful read later this evening.

A few things pop out at me... (I'm assuming this makes me a cat among pigeons? I had to look that saying up). Some of these points I will come back and visit later.

1) Major Joan Gibson has been at HH for somewhere near 30 years. What happened to her been given marching orders "as routine moves" that happens to all SA officers?

2) The article said that historically there has been no trained surgeon on-site at HH. We know this to not be true, as outlined in the report I wrote, with input from former HH staff who would dispute this claim also.

3) I found it VERY interesting that the monies for the "2nd phase" of the construction on the new hospital building is being held at IHQ instead of ZIM THQ.

4)It used some pretty slick spin about issues such as the volunteer/visiting medical professionals program, the number of people being served, the number of patients being treated in the hospital, etc.

5) I found it interesting that on one hand, the article speaks of reducing the amount of surgeries that will be conducted at the HH (to be more along the lines of "what should be" happening at a rural mission hospital), and later on, it speaks of how Dr. Lindgren will be training the doctors in "advanced surgical procedures".

There are other things I want to address and will do so in another comment.

To me, it feels almost as if this article is TSA's response to the HH reporting that has been done on here, right down to some very pointed questions and issues we've raised.

Anonymous said...

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
(don’t assume that something is in order or believe what you are told, but judge the matter by testing it).
Only time will tell.

Anonymous said...

One can read in this write up whatever you want to see and ignore the rest. Selective reading to prove ones point is a common practice everywhere.

As to whether some people think that this positive reporting is largely due to FSAOF, this is ok. Maybe it has had a bearing here and there on the thinking of a few individuals but on the whole it has not been weighty nor substantial enough qua personalities and content involved.

I personally read it as positive and promising, an acknowledgment of a prolonged troubled time (a good number of years.

Also a regaining of lost control of the institution by the SA through an internal sustainability package rather than depending on excessive volunteer and financial arrangements through external third party efforts that probably became too powerful and demanding to manage, even beyond the control of the CMO?

Enthusiasm and uncontrolled expanding of services have led to an unsustainable situation that has caused great stresses on the whole system. These have now been scaled back to more realistic proportions in line with available resources.

One must remember that Dr Thistle was part of the HH establishment through all this and carried part of the overall management responsibility, including the first phase of the building project.

The insistence on remaining in post at HH basically indefinitely or until it was felt it was time for a change (due to a very laudable strongly declared commitment to the local Chiweshe people and Zimbabwe) possibly undermined the authority of THQ and IHQ as line management in their own establishment.

Going by the ultimate happenings, these just did not come out of the blue. Very, very rarely is it a single issue that sets the world aflame. It must have increasingly become an untenable position during a prolonged lead up (I would guess at least 12-24 months -if not longer, of increasingly souring inter-personal relationships and meltdown) to the final events leading to the 48 hours notice after everything got totally out of control with a violent riot etc, there was no other option left.

As to the monies being held in trust by IHQ for unstable developing countries in $$$ accounts, this is nothing novel and has been practiced for many decades and released only as and when needed. I doubt very much whether the initial monies for the development of the hospital were held in the nation itself and not at IHQ or New York. Once released to finance the development is the critical point as there are too many parties interested in getting hands on it ( the same goes for the developed world of course)

Lets pray and trust that with the new senior management in place, together with fresh control functions and development of human resources and financial resources the people of Zimbabwe will continue to benefit from this great institution.

NS

Anonymous said...

NS - why the duplicate entries. Do you think us incapable of reading two blogs? (again - repeated on the next blog).

Anonymous said...



Is this blog not full of reenforcing repetitativeness in order to get a point over? Surely ns is not alone in doing this. What he or she writes is rather down to earth, practical stuff you may agree with or not.

Sven himself has just posted the poll results in duplicate.

Enjoy your day

Anonymous said...

NS - the paragraph that begins...'The insistence on remaining in post at HH...'
why would his desire to stay there (and doing an excellent job) be any different to the lady officer who has been there for about 30 years? (says so in the report). She hasn't been subjected to a routine officer move. Why the different treatment?

Anonymous said...

Silence............

Anonymous said...

......is golden

Anonymous said...

No-one is privy to the internal appointment system applied as to the why's and how's of individual appointments measured against individual circumstances.

To stay in one appointment (the same place, and in the same role) for 30+ years is truly exceptional indeed if this has ever been the case. Nor is it very stimulating for the appointment nor for the appointee, however gifted and however much good work has been done etc. So is the 16 years in the case of Dr Thistle for that matter.

I am sure that much innovative good has been done for the benefit of the local people by the HH team under the direction of Dr Thistle. That it turned out to be such a mutual and bitterly acrimonious parting of the ways (the full story only known the parties involved - and wisely kept that way by them)is very regrettable indeed.

Appointments of 8-10 years are not uncommon anymore, nor are such still not the norm of course. So much depends on the personnel/ appointment needs of the SA and the person(s) involved.

NS

Anonymous said...


The ATW article specifically states that Major Joan Wilson has been serving at HH since the 1980s. My question was why was she afforded different treatment to Dr Thistle, who had been there a mere 16 years? I'm not asking for the gory details of the internal appointment system - frankly I'm not interested, but the IHQ statement last year said Army officers are routinely moved around - but evidently this lady, working in the same place, circumvented the rule. I just wondered what she had that the good doctor didn't. They were both doing excellent work - maybe she didn't ask too many uncomfortable questions. It's also a known fact that there are many SA officers who do not move 'routinely'.

Anonymous said...

"It's also a known fact that there are many SA officers who do not move 'routinely'."

Correct but there are not that many. Quite often those good folks can have very specific personal family and/or medical reasons that require them to have a measure of stability in their lives and can not move around.

That does not mean that they do not have changes of appointment within the same environment with differing (increased/ decreased)responsibilities.

Then of course, there are those whom the SA does not know what to do with except stalling them somewhere where they can do least damage and then conveniently forget about them;);)

Anonymous said...

They should pay you a bonus for being so loyal. I couldn't do it.

Anonymous said...

It is very easy when it is factual and right, not so easy when it is not.

Try it, it does work!

Anonymous said...

Too many holes in this one.