Saturday, July 11, 2015

Will Denmark, a Christian nation for 12 centuries. become a Muslim nation by 2050?

In 826, the King of Jutland Harald Klak was forced to flee from Denmark by Horik I, Denmark's other king. Harald went to Emperor Louis I of Germany to seek help getting his lands in Jutland (Denmark) back. Louis I offered to make Harald Duke of Frisia if he would give up the old gods. Harald agreed, and his family and the 400 Danes accompanying him were baptized in Ingelheim am Rhein. When Harald returned to Jutland, Emperor Louis and Ebbo of Rheims assigned the monk Ansgar to accompany Harald and oversee Christianity among the converts.

"Dannebrog", the Danish flag, dates from 15 June 1219, the day in which King Waldemar II defeated the Estonians in battle. The Danish flag, red with a white cross, represents Christianity, as does the cross in the flags of neighbouring Finland, Norway and Sweden.

The cross represents, unsurprisingly, Christianity. Among the independent nations recognised by the UN, the Danish flag is generally considered as the oldest continuously used national flag in the world; no sovereign nation has used the same flag as long as Denmark.

Denmark has been a Christian nation for almost 12 centuries but Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - one sociologist estimates, "every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim."

Sven Ljungholm, FSAOF

Hamad Bin Khalifa Civilisation Centre, 
Copenhagen, Denmark

Shared with FSAOF by an American Salvationist –

Life in Denmark –Real food for thought

In 1978-9, I was living and studying in Denmark. But at that time, in 1978 - even in metropolitan Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants. The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time.
The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.
Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism. How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets -all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite?
By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was also obvious. Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, in equality for women, in tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.

The New York Post in 2002 ran an article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted accurately that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported:
"Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending." "Muslims are only 5 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes."

"Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane." "Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem"

"Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim."

It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws.

An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and the U.S .: some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives. Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.

 In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration. Today Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe. ( Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of "racism" by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)

If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a Danish language test. You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship. You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark, you must both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to Denmark with you.

You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen. Although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark, they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.

In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked,

75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system as it existed was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. "We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration. The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now," he said.

A large thorn in the side of Denmark's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, "The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a difference," Hvilshøj says, "There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come." And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, "In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech."

Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark. The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.

Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened.

Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law.

And meanwhile, Canadians clamor for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in Canada look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history, we would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her future and for our own.

Susan MacAllen, Canada


Anonymous said...

An interesting picture of what may well happen in United States and Canada with the too lax immigration policies we have regarding potential bringers of terrorism into our countries.
The issue as I see it is difficult--there are many Muslims whose faith in their false god--allah--is not rooted in terroristic activities to all other faith groups and who have fled to escape the evils of Islam as practiced in some so called Islamic nations. There are however those who have immigrated for a different purpose--to infiltrate western society so as to destroy all but Islam.
In our showing of God's love to these people we need to recognize the power that inspires radical Islam--Satan. And in recognizing this put checks balances and safeguards in place as Denmark is trying to do.
In Canada the Conservative government under Stephen Harper is attempting to do this in the face of the opposition of the socialistic bleeding heart opposition. This opposition is a detriment to true democracy .
What truly should we be doing is the question we all need to ask ourselves when we consider the insidious infiltration into Western Democratic Judeo-Christian society by this pernicious evil of Islam.

John Stephenson
Canada and Bermuda.

Kjell Edlund said...

This question of imigrants and aspecially muslim imigrants one must add, is a really complexed and demanding one!

However, being a liberal and democracy Skandinavian my self, I find it most important to stand firm against the dirty brown far right politicals, rallying up from a distant Yesterday in a much darker europe. Its easy to forget that this issue of imigrants is the sole question.
No, if we follow them close, we see that its about all the democracy structures of wish past generations have allready fought for our sake.

Kjell-Erik Edlund
Former officer of the Salvation army

Anonymous said...

I can't agree with Kjell-Eril Edlund - liberal policies and appeasement are a modern scourge on society. My view is closer to that of John Stephenson. The most popular political policy in Britain today is the implementation of long overdue cutbacks in the benefits system, which has seen whole families spend a comfortable life on welfare, not seeing the need to support themselves by working. Some have never ever worked, despite the fact that they have no issues preventing them from doing so, and they have raised their children to have the same expectation of state support for doing nothing. The evidence can be seen in one of the reality TV shows broadcast recently about such people, so I am not making it up. In one national newspaper today the 'queen' of benefits' misuse herself has admitted that the cuts are needed. Such views are not 'far right' at all, they are common sense in reining in the people who are abusing the very systems set in place to help the vulnerable.

But returning to the Muslim issue - radical Islam has a goal for world domination, and they are hell-bent on fulfilling that goal. You can see the evidence everywhere - they are even attacking their fellow moderate Muslims who have co-existed with people of other faiths for years. Nothing but submission to their skewed view of Islam will do, and the process of converting the world is proceeding quicker as each new day dawns. Sadly, with the decline of Christianity there is a vacuum for peoples' souls, and Satan is getting a greater stranglehold on our society, with very little opposition from even the established Christian church (who share Mr Edlund's liberal views).
This isn't just Denmark's problem, but they have woken up to it sooner than other nations will have to. It's happening everywhere - and quickly.

Kjell Edlund said...

I wouldn't say that I am opposed to all of what you are saying.
I too see a great and serious problem with radical Islam and the implications around the Christian world were we see brothers and sister in Christ being persecuted and murdered because of their faith!


If we, like in Denmark, lean on towards anti democratic ideas, then the whole foundation of our democratic system are on stake!

Because - don't fool your self when it comes to those (quite) new right wing parties in many of the countries of Europe.
As for the swedish Sweden Democrats, they have theire roots in National Socialism, Nazism that is. And they don't even try to neglect that fact.

In my view, all of us that hold the ideas of personal freedom and ecuality between men high, must not hessitate to objekt to all that tries to implement a different political order.

Don't forget how mister Adolf fooled his own people and many other nations Once upon a time. Its just 70 years ago since the democracy prevaled over fascism and nazism.
We might easily be fooled again...

Anonymous said...

We might easily be fooled's happening under our noses in Europe. We have had two world wars to defeat Germany, but now Germany is holding those within the European union to ransom by political means, not military might. Was the massive loss of life worth it? Personal freedom is ever-so-subtly being strangled through stifling free expression for fear of offending anyone who wants to be 'offended' for the purpose of killing off christianity in our 'civilised' world. Democracy is dying.